Most of Social Media has gravitated in the direction of mainstream media, censoring anything they ideologically do not like. In an effort to control public thought and circumvent the American First Amendment, stifle free speech etc. , Social Media is increasingly biased and devoid of integrity. This has certainly become true in the political sphere with pro left wing ideology governing allowed content , but on issues concerning Pro-Life activism, Disagreement with homosexuality & lesbianism, fair criticism of Islam etc., Christian interests are progressively being stifled with anti-Christian censorship.

What is more troubling is that propagators and promoters of heretical doctrine and apostasy have in cases we are aware of, lied and fabricated charges with mediums such as YouTube to silence more scripturally based voices of opposition to their demonic doctrines and practices. Even where 'fair use' citations of videos have been made, the capacity of players in the apostate church to lie, falsely claiming copyright violations etc., has been unbelievable.

The rapid pace of change since the coved 19 outbreak from China and its impact on the church and its challenge to the Freedom of Christians has been an avalanche as has been increasing anti-Semitism and Jew hatred. There has been politically motivated censorship of Israel, while Iran is allowed to demand Israel's violent destruction on Social Media. Conservative voices are unjustly being branded and banned as racists, while truly bigoted voices on the radical left are allowed to sing their venom like a chorus intoxicated canaries.

Ultimately however, prolife, pro-Israel, and pro heterosexual marriage voices among Christians are being equated to political hate speech.

Just as independent media has been the only viable alternative to mainstream media, independent Social Media platforms with their own servers and apps are the only alternative to the direction most of mainstream Social Media has veered, and this certainly includes YouTube & Twitter.

To proclaim the authentic message of Jesus and His Return as is taught in God's Word, saved Christians can no longer rely on secular social media respecting First Amendment r5ights, or Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Religion itself is already under attack.

We must have an alternative outlet while there is still time remaining.

We are not wanting to sound alarmist, but we must be realistic.

This is why we have RTN TV & Radio. Please join us. Please subscribe. Please get the App. Visit us on RTNTV.org .

By God's grace we promise to deliver to you Christ centred and Scripturally based ministry. We need your participation, but we covet your prayers.

Sincerely in the love and service of Christ,

JJ Prasch & Moriel Ministries

This has become evident with a recent repackaged trend called Complementarianism, promoted by Dana Crosby. dana has produced teaching, that attempts to show that headship has been deliberately mistaught to suppress women and keep them away from the pulpit. Jacob examines this, and calls it what it is, a lie.

It is a must watch. Great exposition of the book or Romans.

Please share this with your Spanish speaking family and friends.

Much needed reminder of the grace of God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

More teachings to come, stay tuned!

Follow Sergio Mariani on his own channel where you will find worship music, teachings and well done series on "Know your enemy" in Spanish.

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While the doctrinal positions of those within MORIEL TV are absolutely congruous with the producers and contributors of this video regarding the Pre Tribulational rapture view which we in common with the producers & contributors hold to be erroneous, there may be other areas outside of the scope of this video where we may either agree or disagree or partially agree. The academically well-presented and scholarly argumentation set out in this superb production, precisely parallels and echoes our own assertions with respect to this increasingly vital subject irrespective of any extraneous matters not specifically addressed in this video.

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Copyright Violation is wrong. Filing complaints for legitimate violations is both ethical and appropriate. Lying however is not. To misrepresent a "FAIR USE' citation of a clip as a Copyright Violation is both dishonest and despotic. To further claim that a video not even showing clips of the complainant (Amir Tsarfati) is a 'Copyright Violation', in order to suppress open, fair, and reasonable doctrinal disagreement or theological discussion - is nothing short of lying. Amir Tsarfati's dishonest actions are shameful and unbecoming of someone claiming to be a saved believer in Yeshua. How can an Israeli professing to be a follower of his Messiah go to the secular world and make false accusations against fellow believers like this? This is done only to silence criticism of his teaching, which many believers who support Israel, including a number of Jewish believers, hold to be doctrinal errors. When the world behaves like this, that is the world. When believers behave like this, it is a disgrace to the Name and cause of Yeshua, bringing reproach upon His Gospel.

We ourselves normally agree with Amir Tsarfati's political commentaries. His "teaching," however, is in the view of many believers a mixture of truth and error warranting honest, scripturally based discussion. Amir Tsarfati is indeed a tour guide and an officer in the military reserves, and is in a position to produce such political and strategic commentaries as a believer. He does not however pastor a congregation in Israel, he is not a Messianic theologian, nor speak for the Messianic leadership in Israel. Amir Tsarfati's ministry is primarily to the church in the diaspora. We publicly call upon Amir Tsarfati to repent and apologize to Dean Gibson and Sonia Azam.

The specific teaching of Amir Tsarfati challenged, concerned his false Christology that Yeshua is the Archangel Michael. When first accosted, he reacted by citing a Jehovah's Witness cult false teaching, then Amir Tsarfati angrily blamed others as if he were a victim of something other than his own erroneous dogma. Now Amir files copyright violation claims where no violations exist. Regarding his second bogus copyright strike against the converted Moslem sister Sonia Azam, some of us even agree with Amir Tsarfati's position on a Jewish antichrist. This however does not constitute a right to dishonestly sequester, by such utterly disingenuous means, material that reviews and dialogues about his proposition. The habitual belligerence exhibited by Amir Tsarfati in response to those in honest disagreement with him has now been replaced by a policy of demonstrable dishonesty.

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Jacob Prasch deals with the current events in the Middle East. This time he deals with the Turkish threat and how it relates to Bible Prophecy and the return of Jesus.

This week, it was disclosed to the international news media what becomes of 'Christian ' films in Communist China. This policy is not new, but the law on the books is.

Moriel terminated its relationship with Studio Scotland & GV 24/7 due to both doctrinal and ethical concerns some time ago. Their efforts to re-launch GV 24/7 have floundered as the stats indicate that practically no one watches it; viewership is chronically low. The mysticism charged conspiracy theory charade of the women's ministry' saw pastors informing us that Deborah Menelaws is 'lunatic fringe' and will never be permitted back to their churches. The big decline however is in their film and video production and the shameful scandal surrounding their premier film 'The Daniel Project' (and the rather low-grade flop with acting, supposedly based on it, 'The Daniel Connection').

The Menelaws produced the Daniel Project around the narration of myself in dialogue with a major secular voice artist who was paid secular professional rates (footage of myself was also included in the idiotic Daniel Connection after I refused to 'act' in it). I agreed to be paid nothing as did the Christian extras etc. on the Daniel Connection because we were told that 'it was for evangelism and we were 'doing it for The Lord'. The film was then sold to Hollywood (California Pictures/ Paramount), and The Daniel Connection was sold to Communist Chinese interests, assuring it would not be translated into Mandarin to evangelize Chinese people, even while China was stepping up its cruel persecution of believers. This is Deborah Menelaws.

I did this as an evangelistic endeavor, not a commercial one. I did it Jesus and for the lost, not to sell it to Hollywood or Communist Chinese. I am still waiting for my money which I want donated to a charity helping persecuted Christians. Our lawyers and the BBC confirmed that someone need not be a member of an actors union to be paid for a role in a film, and contributors are regularly paid for documentaries. I want to give my pay to the persecuted Christians in China whom Menelaws betrayed for money, selling the film ostensibly produced to evangelise.

The Communist Chinese Party & government (which control regulates all sectors – social & commercial), maintains strict policies against any Christian films that can be used to spread the Gospel:

please view: https://fxn.ws/308cUT6

But the Menelaws just did not care. Ministry is only a business, and Business is Business. As long as it sells, you can pay top, expensive secular Hollywood talent, such as Caroline Goodall handsomely, but use, exploit, and bamboozle good and well-intentioned saved Christians into working in it without any pay at all by telling them they are doing it for The Lord and for the

Gospel of Jesus. Then it is sold it to a cruel, demonized, Christian persecuting regime in Communist China, assuring the film will never be used to spread the Gospel of Jesus. This the Menelaws did.

Unlike legitimate ministries which are registered and incorporated as Christian Charities, the Menelaws' Studio Scotland is registered as 'for profit' commercial enterprise they portray to people as being a ministry. Several people were shocked to discover the truth and have described them to us as religious frauds pretending to be a ministry.

The Daniel Project is their Premier production, which ironically, and in an act of Divine retribution, features me and promotes our ministry at the same time they are endlessly attacking myself & Moriel. I must laugh.

No other Christian film they have produced has achieved the merit and notoriety of The Daniel Project, and no other film they produce ever shall. God has removed His Hand from them and as a supposedly 'Christian' venture Studio Scotland and its ancillaries have declined as has GV 24/7. All they can do is wallow in the mire of their decline and moan & rant with malice, resenting others for their reaping of what they themselves have sowed. What the Chinese paid them is by scriptural definition ‘filthy lucre’ good for nothing other than buying a potter’s field.

After webcasting the videos of the David Nathan heresy promoted by Menelaws & GV 24/7, and producing copies of the sales certificates of films to the world that Christians worked for free on believing it was for the Gospel, Moriel was showered with letters and emails thanking us for showing them the truth about Menelaws and their shameless escapades. Now, they no longer watch GV 24/7. Indeed, hardly anyone does. That ship is sunk and won't be salvaged. God will not be mocked. He won't allow it.

They seem to have abandoned their server & platform due to diminished viewership and only post on Youtube with a very low amount of interest.

After posting a heavily edited video from Bill Randles' church misrepresenting what transpired with David Nathan, even Mr. Bill Randles was publicly compelled to acknowledge that Menelaws lied intending to deceive the Body of Christ.

William Randles Yet you call him out, accusing him of being self-seeking. Facebook is not the only front this battle is being waged on. We are sincere when we say that David Nathan’s doctrines are a problem, just as I have been sincere when I called Jacob on his language. What you seem to want is to call me out and shame me for not being as adamant as you think I ought to be about Jacob. There are other issues as well, for example, the Menelaws are using an excerpted video (from our church) which can be construed as having Jacob agree with David Nathan’s teaching on the Millenial sacrifice. Nothing could be further from the truth, but they continue to run it anyway(last time I checked). This is a mess brother indeed, but don’t exacerbate it by wildly implicating people who either have no real connection to it, or like me, who are and have been trying to deal with the problem, and don’t deserve to be treated a though they haven’t. I thought you already said you wanted to “Move On”?

In reaction to our response, Menelaws reacted by cyber vendetta with a non-Christian organization called 'Catalyst' known for controversy in the UK. This organization states on its website that it has

‘no religious beliefs of any kind’ and represents people of any faith (Moslem, Mormon, Hindu) and of ‘any sexual orientation’ (homosexual, lesbian, bi-sexual, trans-sexual). Having no scriptural basis for their defense of the heresies of David Nathan etc., they went to the world just as they sold the Christan films to the world. Because David Nathan is fully Jewish, though his family is not (I am the opposite; I am not but my family are), his orthodox Judaism was why he taught on one video that he, and not non-Jews could not understand his heretical denials of fundamental Judeo-Christian truths. This fueled a stupid campaign attacking my own genealogy as not being sufficiently Jewish, (or Jewish at all), as a standard to establish David Nathan's theological credibility over mine by David Nathan's heretical followers.

It was asserted that I & Moriel were 'under investigation' when in fact we have never been investigated by any juridical body or agency in any jurisdiction. It was asserted that we are a cult that abuses its members, when in fact we have never had any members. It was also alleged that I reaped large financial earnings from the sale of recorded material, when in fact all of our material had long been available on-line for free download.

When these ridiculous efforts (which our lawyer, a well known Christian Rights Crusader, himself a believing Jew, made fun of) were shown as disingenuous and contrived, Menelaws maliciously fabricated other concocted strategies they invented.

The first was false allegations of financial impropriety. Our audited accounts in both the UK & USA are in complete accord with the laws & regulations of both countries as in other countries. The UK records filed annually with the UK Charities Commission indicate that I receive no salary, solicit no personal support, nor accept any book sales royalties. Thus they resorted to distorting publicly available financial reports in the USA where the tax laws and charity regulations differ from Britain.

In the American system, the legal & financial manner in which book royalties are not accepted is to accept the royalties and return them to the incorporated charity as a tax deduction, where the author becomes a donor. Book sales are a fiscal mainstay of Moriel. The royalties must be paid, reported in the audited annual financial report, and declared on my income taxes as a deduction. Also, the designated fund's regulations apply. If a donor sends a gift designated for a specific country, mission project, missionary, evangelist, or otherwise, by US law it must go to where designated and this must be shown in the audited accounts for the IRS. I am not allowed by the policies of Moriel to solicit personal gifts or honourariums, but as long as reported and declared, I can accept them.

What Menelaws did was to only report the income ($147,000) without reference to royalties being redonated as a tax deduction under US law and duly reported. This caliber of slander and defamation has become Menelaw's hallmarks.

Lest our right-hand knows what the left-hand does, I can give no figures. For the record, however, David Lister & myself are two of Moriel's largest supporters, and the ministry gets 60% of earnings from my secular intellectual property business. Some of these assets are South African domain names, but were acquired - not registered, and are not even held in South Africa itself, nor is their sale being negotiated with South Africa. This does not meet the legal definition or criteria for further false allegations of a form of extortion known as 'cybersquatting'. It is a lie.

Following their David Nathan fiasco, the Menelaws and a few accomplices supportive of David Nathan, then attacked my genealogy. My testimony has been in the public domain for decades. Ancestorily, my family name was Brasch altered to Prasch (as the burial records show, and as Rosebrough & Menelaws themselves affirmed), and were buried in Jewish cemeteries with burial certificates in both names - Brasch & Prasch. The altered name means ‘Pharisee’ but is not original.

I have copied dozens of people the original 'Prasch' Jewish burial documents.

Today, apart from Orthodox Jews, many Jews are buried with non-Jewish spouses in Christian or secular cemeteries (In Forest Lawn, George Burns is buried in the same crypt as Walt Disney and New York Mayor Ed Koch is buried in Trinity churchyard, etc.). In pre holocaust Europe however, this was not the case.

The original Family name moreover is Jewish, not German as claimed by Meelaws etc. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Moritz Brasch (1843–1895), Polish-German Jewish philosopher

Charles Orwell Brasch (1909–1973), New Zealand Jewish poet, literary editor, arts patron Arno Brasch (1910–1963), German Jewish physician; (de)

Rudolph Brasch (1912–2004), German-Australian rabbi, author

Thomas Brasch (1945–2001), German Jewish writer, dramatist, editor, lyricist Walter M. Brasch (1945–2017), an American Jewish journalist

Claims by Menelaws/ Bethel echoing claims by Chris Roseborough and supporters of David Nathan to have received genealogical data from my family are a lie. He contacted two of them and both thought he was someone crazy and told him to cease contacting them. Additionally, apart from cemetery records (the Nazis only desecrated, vandalized and defaced Jewish graves with swastikas), in the 'Juden Spulen', all German Jewish birth, death, and marriage records were incinerated by Hitler to purge any record of German Jewry. Rosebrough & Co. (Menelaws, Rogers, etc.) could not possibly have pieced together an accurate genealogy without such essential documentation.

In his fabricated DNA chart, Rosebrough redefined Nationality as Ethnicity to mislead. The inaccurate genealogies I have seen have do not contain relatives familiar to me but do have ones I never even heard of. Every member of the Moriel team now has the burial record from Jewish cemeteries verifying Prasch/ Brasch is buried as Jews. It is Jewish burial records and DNA that are used by the Jewish Agency and Diasporic Institute (Beit Ha'Tfutsot) to determine Jewish heritage and ancestry where there are no civil birth, death, and marriage certificates or synagogue records.

Unfortunately, we cannot post much of this data on-line as Rosebrough has lied about other documents we have posted and harassed my family (including non-believers). However, any Moriel supporter already on our mail list who wishes to physically see certified documentation can be allowed to do so by prior arrangement. I also agreed not only to bring my documents to debate, but even go directly to the Jewish Agency with Rosebrough, but Rosebrough declined to debate the issues that he initially raised concerning John Mac Arthur's teaching on the 'mark of the beast', and Roseborough's endorsement of Doreen Virtue following his initial denunciation of her as a “polished scam” on the video of her sold by Sid Roth.

Some graves have 'Prasch', others 'Brasch', but others have both - substantiating it is the same family. My ancestors lived in Hamburg, Bad Orb, Dresden, and Leipzig. Most however emigrated (and assimilated) to the USA & UK. As with all German Jewry, certain burial records and grave locations survive. The other data being burned when synagogues were demolished. Some of these

interment records are available on-line on Jewish burial sites .

Databases » JOWBR » JewishGe n Online Worldwide Burial Registry - Germany Burial Record JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry - Germany Burial Record
PRASCH

/PRASCH/BRASCH, Seraphine
Plot	Spouse	Father Mother	Comments	Cemetery Name City / Country
ATL 21/17				Neuer Jüdischer Friedhof / Dresden / Germany

It is also scientifically impossible to construct a DNA chart without a blood or saliva sample. The ridiculous forgery that Rosebrough concocted is ludicrous. My actual DNA report indicates that I do not have even 1% German DNA. (My maternal DNA however is mainly Irish/ Celtic).

I attended the Jewish community with my siblings in my youth, and although I was in the Jewish community - I was never at all brought up in the Jewish faith (despite circumcision in infancy). Based on ancestry, however, the Israeli Jewish Agency issued me an immigration certificate (called: t'udah oleh) specifically stating my ethnic identity as 'Jewish' after I marrying and returning to Israel from abroad. While this is a legal document for various civil purposes, I am not recognized as Jewish by the rabbinic authorities for any religious purposes.

In the coalition government of Israel, the Ministry of Interior controlling, not immigration, but Citizenship & National ID cards is in the hands of the Religious Political Parties. Unlike my Teudat Oleh, it does not state I am Jewish on my National ID card (Teudat Zeut) because I could not have been eligible under the 'Law of Return' to immigrate to Israel unless I converted to rabbinic Judaism (due to none of my Grandparents being practicing Jews by Religion despite any ancestry). There are literally tens of thousands of immigrants (or more) from the former USSR, the USA & Falasha community from Ethiopia with this same status in modern Israel. It is quite common. Contrary to what has been falsely reported in a lie, my wife & I did not even legally marry in Israel; the rabbinic authorities create too many bureaucratic & legal problems for believers.

I was named after a relative named 'Jacob'. In the USA this was Anglicized to 'James'. When I immigrated to Israel, James & Jacob are in Hebrew the same name translated 'Yakov' (thus I have both names "James Jacob" on my Passport & Driving License). This is all legally documented on all of my ID, bank accounts, etc. This is

also the usual common practice in Israel in assigning Hebrew names to new immigrants. My legal name is, therefore 'James Jacob'.

My wife is the 100% Jewish daughter of Holocaust survivors and our children were born in Galilee. Our son served in a combat brigade in the IDF as a Jewish soldier, before being transferred as a lawyer to the legal corps. My family is Hebrew speaking Israeli Jewish believers in Jesus. My family is gravely offended that

Rosebrough depicted me in a video clip as Adolph Hitler, as most of my wife's family were murdered at the behest of Hitler.

Being a cult, abject claims of financial impropriety and even disputed genealogy all became desperate rants of the declining. Now, there has been yet one more rant of hideous desperation. It is not insignificant that several Lutherans, by his admission, have called Rosebrough a cult leader.

A final attempted hit job by Bill Randles, adopted by Chris Roseborough, and imitated by Menelaws is the distortion of our evangelistic teaching on the Metatron, where I warn repeatedly about the occult nature of Caballa (mystical Judaism). The Cabalistic perverts what the scriptures teach concerning both The Messiah and 'The Angel of The Lord'. Cabalistic corruptions do not invalidate the concept of The Messiah or what scripture states about The Messiah, nor do such rabbinic perversions invalidate what the Word of God states regarding 'The Angel of The Lord' whom rabbinic Judaism calls the 'Metatron' but whom Christians hold to be a Christophany.

Bill Randles is not a man of formal seminary education (not that this troubles me), and he does not know what he is talking about. Menelaws, as is evidenced by their promotion of David Nathan's heresies, of course, knows even less. Rosebrough of course is formally educated in theology but is either in this case also ignorant, or deliberately disingenuous.

The Christian teaching on the Metatron has been used to refute One-ness Sabellianism (Trinity Denial) and to evangelize Orthodox Jews sine 1863 when Oxford University Hebrew lecturer Rabbi Tzvi Nassi became a believer in Jesus and authored his book on the Judaic basis for the

Divine Tri-unity. Most Jewish Mission organizations train their evangelists in messianic apologetics that includes evangelistic reference to The Metatron. Instead of defending myself, I will draw the reader's attention to the basic evangelistic instruction of 'Jews For Jesus' on the Metatron, and

a video clip with citations from the pertinent curriculum of the Israel College of The Bible and its evangelistic arm – One For Israel.

https://youtu.be/lqepaDSgUA8 The Metatron – One For Israel

https://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/issues-v18-n02/kabbalahs-best-kept-secret/

As anyone can see for themselves, the ranting of those who have gone into error doctrinally, and lost their integrity (although we are very sadly forced to question if Menelaws or Rosebrough ever

had any to begin with), is like the abject howling of a terminally wounded beast. They are drowning in their sea of decline and are too arrogant and deluded by religious pride to yell for help, so they just yell.

When I took almost fatally ill in 2015 I knew it was God's purpose to address things in my life & ministry. Moriel went from being mainly itinerate to becoming mainly on-line. Now with Coved 19 Cannabis clinics and abortion mills are open but churches are by law closed. Leftists can congregate to riot and tear down statues, but Christians can not congregate to worship. We knew The Lord allowed my illness to reorganize our ministry to prepare for the future. Without a doubt, this accounts for the growth & blessings we have experienced since my illness. Now with RTN TV, new branches in Holland and India, and an expansion in missions the growth has gained momentum. Satan of course attacks, but by God's Grace the growth only continues. God tried to get my attention but it frankly took a health crisis and a partial disability to get me to do what God knew I & Moriel should be doing.

When Deborah Menelaws nearly died in a medical emergency recently, having had that experience myself, I prayed that The Lord would show her mercy and spare her life. God did, but she has had her last warning.

Bal is the Hebrew term for 'husband' and YHWH was to be Israel's 'Bal'. But a false Bal who had the same name mimicked the true Bal. Queen Jezabel was a wicked woman whose husband did not stop her from promoting a false Bal. She died with only her hands and skull in a puddle of blood lapped up by dogs under God's judgment. She misled people into false belief and hated and rampaged against Obadiah, the Sons of The Prophets, and Elijah who opposed her demonic agenda. Promoting the false God the Father of David Nathan who, according to him, is not the creator is no different. Scorn driven rage against those who opposed this lie is the precise character of what Jezabel did as is a husband who facilitates it. The death of Jezabel is what awaits those who imitate Jezabel. When she could not get Naboth's Vineyard she began her rant.

When The Lord removes His Hand from something, it will always self destruct. In the decline, those responsible for the decline will blame everyone other than themselves. When the decline becomes undeniable and they can no longer lie to themselves because reality trumps delusion, they become frantic. Then - all they can do is rant, and rant she shall.

ROSBROUGH & SON

Another ranter with a ministry in visible decline in decline is the Pirate Radio & Fighting 4 Faith the hyper Lutheran figure Chris Rosebrough , and his son & producer Joshua.

Rosbrough teaches that Forgiveness for sin comes from confessing the sins to him Roman Catholic style, to receive 'absolution' from him. He is ecumenically conference partnered with the Roman Catholic activist Matthew Walsh and Rosebrough worships before statues and graven images. He denies a literal antichrist or actual 'mark of the beast' or 3-1/2 years etc. and rejects any prophetic meaning to the Book of Revelation. He also teaches that Satan has been bound and the 1.000-year reign of Christ began 2,000 yea§rs ago at the Ascension of Jesus. He likewise believes in an odd combination of post and premillennialism where the 7 vials of wrath in the Book of Revelation have

always been being poured out. He is a firm believer in communion bread & wine being the 'true Body & Blood' of Christ, and in infant baptism for salvation.

Rosebrough has been collecting slanderous and defamatory material from Menelaws and Bill Randles. He opposes us due to our objections to the false christ never crucified of Doreen Virtue.

In the public domain, are claims by Joshua Rosebrough's first wife of homosexuality that led to the destruction of their marriage (having male to male sex while on a submarine while in the navy, having homosexually contracted STDs and in his own statement in response to his firmer wife & her family, he conspicuously does not deny being a homosexual. There are similar claims of his homosexuality by other Lutheran Refugees from Rosebrough's church. We have no interest in family disputes and we neither affirm or deny the allegations of his very Christian first wife.

The videos of Chris Rosebrough’s outrageous behaviour towards the family of his daughter’s first husband (available on ‘The Devil’s Triangle’ on RTN TV.org) reveal a very troubling calibre of individual that does not befit a Christian, much less a pastor.

The most conspicuous attribute of his activities however is nothing short of shocking. Both father & son are known for their filthy language and vulgarity and posting profanity on the internet, especially the son., but also the father. We apologize in advance for his disgusting content, which is somehow imagined to be 'Christian'.

Their internet material displays what the Rosebroughs in reality are:

 

BILL RANDLES

The saga of my former friend & colleague Bill Randles is a tragic one. To have his church with all but one of his elders depart quickly on hostile terms, along with his secretary of 25 years. To have seen very nearly all of the young people who grew up in his church from the time they were babies walk out the door in disgust to another church whose pastor Bill Randles denounced as a “psychopath” was ugly. To deliberately drive off church members and long-standing colleagues like myself who had loyally been with him for decades resembled a death wish for his church & ministry. Most of his church left rather suddenly, but the reasons had built up for some time. When the wall is hit, it is hit suddenly and quickly. Angered by the fact that Moriel can no longer organize his itineraries, advertise or promote his meetings, or market his books, he just squawks at us and others from the sidelines for his self inflicted fate.

To remain visible with a low web presence and shrunken profile, Bill Randles has resorted to grasping at straws to attack me to recoup some degree of attention. This is sadly pathetic to watch, so we generally just ignore it. His recent ignorant rants about our evangelistic teaching on The Metatron are instantly discredited by the material posted by Jews For Jesus, One For Israel & Israel College of The Bible, and the book by Rabbi Tzvi Nassi who became a believer.

Bill Randles has no platform in his own country the USA, and now has only a mere vestIge of a church left. He instead ventures further afield as an author to places like Australia where he is represented by a patripassionist/ pneumapassionist heretic who teaches that the 2 witnesses of Revelation Chapter 12 are 'God the Father & The Holy Spirit' who must come in human form as Christ did to Jerusalem to be crucified'. In New Zealand, he is represented by a devotee of Robert Breaker who teaches the Zodiac gospel that the prophecy of Revelation 12 was fulfilled 23rd September 2017 because 'the Moon was in Virgo'. This is what Bill Randles has been reduced to. Interest in his ministry in these other countries has likewise declined conspicuously and there is very little interest in his books. The Lord has removed His Hand from Bill Randles' ministry leaving him a failed pastor and failed author.

Once more, all the desperate can do anymore is rant. Praise The Lord for earplugs.

The covid virus that has been Communist China's gift to the world has been corrupted into a political issue and not primarily a scientific & medical one. 

Data on the efficaciousness of existing quinine based medication, the media suppression of contrary medical and scientific opinion by eminent professionals, the manipulation of statistics neglecting to relate increased diagnosed cases to increased testing, and the ignoring of decreased infection rates in places such as Sweden where no lockdown was ever enforced or implemented, are just a few of the causes for popular confusion.

Accusations that the political left is deliberately misusing the pandemic to depress the American economy in league with refusal to stop urban rioting in cities and states with left-leaning governments as an electoral strategy to turn voters against Donald Trump is another aspect being highlighted by some voices. So areaccusations that globalists are exploiting the pandemic to engineer political, economic, and social crises internationally in order to oppose populism.

All of these views indeed may have merit as secular issues. Our concern however are the issues concerning the body of Christ. Is john MacArthur and others like himScripturally correct in their position? 

For the record, a Moriel affiliated church in California has adopted a modified position akin to that of 'grace to you' and masters seminary although they are practicing social distancing, face masks etc. But why?

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It is no secret that Moriel & Jacob Prasch are at theological odds with John MacArthur in several basic areas of dogma & praxis.

Eschatologically we deem John MacArthur's teaching that there will be those following the rapture who accept the mark of the beast yet who will be saved and go to heaven to be both false and dangerous and in diametric contradiction to Revelation chapters 14, 16, & 20.

Pneumatologically despite our own hard core opposition to hyper charismatic & ultra-Pentecostal extremism (Neo-Montanism) with its mysticism, emotionally governed pseudo spirituality, and hermeneutical Gnosticism seen in the New Apostolic Reformation, Word Faith money preaching, and counterfeit revivals (Toronto, Lakeland, Hillsong, Pensacola etc), we co-equally abhor the Cessationism of John MacArthur on the opposite pole of the spectrum. Suppressing the Holy Spirit and mutilating the texts of 1 Corinthians to make it say that which it exegetically does not. Both extremes are deception and lunacy.

Philosophically despite the common ground we share with John MacArthur on the fundamental essence gospel and our similar caveats contra-ecumenical seduction,we find the reformed proposition that a god of love intentionally created certain people to be eternally tortured in hell to be aCalvinistic repackaging of the 'inja allah' teaching of Islam & the Koran, combined with Calvin’s 16th century humanism. Jesus taught us that 'hell is a place created for Satan & his demons', and Jesus died and arose so that no one would ever need to go there, though an omniscient God know the future. We do not subscribe to the patristic theology of Augustine whose Platonism was seminal in the development of Roman Catholicism, despite his maintaining certain true things as well as the introduction of error alien to the New Testament and the apostolic church.

Soteriologically we hold that John MacArthur is confused in his understanding of the blood of Christ and ignorant in his convolution of the death of Christ and his blood.

Ecclesiologically the text of 1 Corinthians Chapter 5 warns us that in certain circumstances there can even be a 'guilt by association’, but always by cooperation. John MacArthur'sheinous partnering with a nefarious figure like Tim Keller and a neo-gnostic like John Piper who leads the 'lectio divina' visualization ritual with mystical Gnostics such as Beth Moore and Francis Chan, is nothing short of pathetic. To align with those who what you profess and know to be serious error is nothing short of hypocritical. When ministry becomes built on theocratic politics instead of on doctrinal theology, ugly fruit can be the only result. We have tragically witnessed Mr. MacArthur's deputy, Phil Johnson in bed with Chris Rosbrough & son, famous for their supposedly satirical use of excrement vulgarity and on-line four letter swear word profanity represented as being somehow 'Christian'. Rosbrough rejects any belief in a mark of the beast or a literal antichrist and teaches that the millennial reign of Christ with Satan being bound commenced with the ascension of Christ. Rosbrough propounds sacramental regeneration and proclaims that forgiveness of sin comes from confessing one's sin to him to receive absolution. Being in league with such a deceiver is indefensible, but that is what Phil Johnson of master's seminary does. Mr. Johnson lends credence to Doreen Virtue who claims to have had a 3D apparition of Christ, depicted by an artist in accordance with her description, who had no stigmata and (thus) was never crucified for our sin, yet had a protruding Roman Catholic-style sacred heart emanating from his chest. She has just this week published her fourth book on this claimed apparition despite claims that she has renounced it a few months earlier. Yet it is Doreen Virtue whom Phil Johnson enlisted on a video to defend john MacArthur's erroneous teaching concerning Mark of the Beast.

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For the aforementioned reasons, Moriel & Jacob Prasch cannot recognize john MacArthur as a solid, Holy Spirit illuminated expounder of God's Word, though our own convictions are so often in harmony with so much of what Mr. MacArthur and his colleagues otherwise write and declare from the pulpit. We therefore do not address the current Covid-19 issue in any sense as his devotees.

In California, and elsewhere, leftist gangs can congregate for premeditated civil unrest, the demolition of public monuments, and the violent dissemination of hate speech, often against Christians.Christians however, cannot assemble for prayer, fellowship, and worship. The abortion mills are open for non-therapeutic termination of pregnancy; killing babies as a form of birth control.

Cannabis clinics are also open in California for the procurement of marijuana. Churches however, must be closed.

God may indeed be allowing this as a judgment on apostate churches such as Rick Warren's Saddleback and Bill Johnson's Bethel in Redding. However, Christ-centered and scripturally-based houses of worship are also off limits by the decree of a left wing governor known for his anti-conservative Christian political biases.

Unfortunately, we are unable for the reasons listed above to applaud or salute John MacArthur's actions and his stance as we would have preferred to do. We do however, on the basis of Acts chapter 4, affirm his policy as scriptural. While we are prevented by his bad theology from standing in solidarity with him, in this case we do stand in solidarity with his actions.

It is moreover disturbing to us that so many of his traditional supporters are dividing from him, not over the kinds of doctrinal issues we mention, but because of his reaction to this unjust interference in the affairs of the church by an ungodly politician in Sacramento. In this at least, john MacArthur has our prayers and empathy (for what little they may be worth to him).

Finally, we are forced to regard any citation of the criminal charges brought against his son for alleged financial impropriety in his secular business to be a low blow. Whether these allegations are to any degree a politically motivated misuse of the judicial process by anti-evangelical secularists of the kind California is renowned for, we do not know. We do of course thank God for the

Constitutional principle of 'innocent until & unless proven guilty' enshrined in American law (which is also under assault in California by radical feminist advocates of corpus juris). Be these things as they may, they ought not be a factor in the present equation.

Proverbs 11:1 commands that we are not to have unequal weights & measures. If we stand in critical opposition to John MacArthur when we believe him to be wrong, Christian honor demands that we stand in support of his position when we believe that he is right. 

 

James Jacob Prasch

Moriel however, is focused on doctrine. We have long warned of the heretical content of TBN, even prior to the homosexuality & financial scandals being reported repeatedly on the front page of the LA Times. The TBN  money preaching was injurious to the testimony of the Body of Christ.

We also opposed the dangerously false teaching of Hillsong even prior to the highly publicized sexual & financial scandals. The 'serve the Roman Catholic church' hyper ecumenical policies of Darlene Zscech with the pedophile protecting Pope John Paul II, were highly troubling to us. So too were were the blasphemous 'Naked Cowboy' and 'Jesus in Drag as the Statue of Liberty'' fiasco by Hillsong in New York exposed by the secular media.

The Royal Commission investigation in Australia declared Brian Houston culpable of protecting his homosexual pedophile father Frank in a series of moral fiascos that rocked Hillsong on top of the NY media mess of Hillsong's Carl Lenz degradation of Christ.

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Tim Wirth's Website No Goofey Zone has Mr. Wirth declaring his tenure playing with Hillsong and with Darleen Zcech to be a "BLESSING", and boasting of his work with TBN.

This kind of repertoire & CV is to Moriel a shame and a disgrace and not something to count as a 'Blessing'. TBN is nothing to boast of. This manner of self promotion by Mr. Tim Wirth further confirms the impetus for Moriel getting rid of him.

Many Christians think that Hillsong above all is an enterprise that is about money (as was revealed in an Australia TV news documentary). Many also found the unceasing emphasis on money by TBN was much the same thing.

Among many of us who know him ands who have dealt with him, Tim Wirth is a less successful version of the same thing.

Doctrine and ethics had little place in Hillsong or TBN. Lo and behold - Tim Wirth.

Coming soon: What does "If I be Lifted up" mean? Jacob Prasch will discuss the meaning of this wonderful teaching from our Lord. Find out when Moriel releases their newest video.

He establishes what scripture says regards these events, the reality of the situation compared to modern teaching and acceptance. This is a very important teaching, that is not just timely and relevant, it confirms we are not yet in the tribulation but shows God's grace with the warnings we have seen so far, declaring things will only get worse. with short spells of relative normality. Just as you would expect with a mother on labor pains".

 

As his videos document, Mr. Roseborough's defense of John Mac Arthur's 'Mark of The Beast' teaching, and his support 
of the 'ministry' of Doreen Virtue with the apparition of her "3 D Jesus with the radiating 'sacred heart' but no nail marks", 
was and remains the basis of conflicting opinion as was voiced and video documented by Mr. Roseborough himself.

Once his 'John Mac Arthur Derangement Syndrome' & 'Doreen Virtue' polemics as first raised by Mr. Roseborough are publicly 
debated in front of a live stream camera, we will be utterly delighted to debate the 'Metatron' in Jerusalem. As the headquarters of
'Ha Sochnut' (The Jewish Agency) which determined that Jacob Prasch is of Jewish descent and awarded him an
immigration certificate on that basis, is also located in Jerusalem, it would be an ideal location. The bogus amateur 
Wikipedia Genealogist antics, and fraudulently concocted DNA pie chart (that is not even Jacob's actual personal sample DNA) 
fabricated by Mr. Roseborough can be permanently debunked with a simple visit with two independent witnesses (and if security 
allows - a video recording) to The Jewish Agency. We would look forward to debating the Metatron in this second debate, once the 
original matter publicly presented on Youtube by Mr. Roseborough as the grounds for his contention has been debated first.

Any efforts to circumvent or circumlocute the core issue however by means of changing the narrative, moving the goal post, 
or diverting to another issue in order to avoid the real one as first laid out By Mr., Roseborough, can only be viewed as a 
cowardly sham. We therefore accept the second debate challenge in Jerusalem on The Metatron, after the first debate on 
the very core issues Mr. Roseborough himself first confronted us with in the public arena. We now look forward to not one debate, 
but two. We respectfully propose that the first debate be held in the USA as it would give the most streamed live time accessibility 
to the most viewers.


Moriel/ JJP

 

Mr. Roseborough embarked on a frantic tirade, first insisting people ignore my opposition to his promotion of Doreen Virtue and her bogus Christophany and his defense of the Mac Arthur 666 teaching which I regard as false. They source of these cult allegations was an agency professing to have no Christian beliefs and representing homosexuals, lesbians, Moslems, Mormons etc. The evidence we provided undermined his claims and he suddenly dropped yelling ‘cult’ and shifted to attacking the evangelistic teaching ‘Metatron’. His attacks are likewise demonstrably devoid of foundation. Next he attacked my ancestry with a lunatic video mixing baseless rubbish with elements of truth. All of this to divert from debating.

The % pie chart he designed is NOT my DNA and I have no ancestors I ever heard of with names such as ‘Gray’ . What I do know is that my own DNA confirms that I am not even 1% German (although I had ancestors who lived in Germany, they were not ethnic German; he seems to try to mislead people by using civil national identity as if it were ethnic). He engages in Wikipedia Genealogy just as he does Wikipedia theology. He admits my original family name is Brasch and that it is Jewish, and that I had a forefather named Jacob (anglicized to James upon immigration to USA, reverting to Jacob or Yakov when I immigrated to Israel as I documented). Somehow he tries to determine that because my ancestors arrived in the USA from one place and not Leipzig where there were a number of Jews named Brasch, that the name does not apply to me. This is of course ridiculous. Since he likes Wikipedia all he needs to do is Google “Brasch’ on Wikipedia to find prominent Jews of that name in Britain, Germany & The USA. He also makes a big deal of burials. In fact NY Mayor Ed Koch (the most famous Jewish politician in American history) is buried in Trinity Church, and many intermarried & assimilated people want burial with their spouses (this is very common and means nothing). I grew up in the Jewish community but never in Judaism (I was Roman Catholic). But after the ‘cult’ claims & Metatron he needs another straw to divert away from the debate. He bickers on line, but no debate.

The absurd and obvious lie of Mr Roseborough however is that a legal Israeli government document I presented on video to show I have 3 names was a form to report & replace my misplaced Israeli ID (I stated on the video that the form was not the certificate). If someone reports a lost license or passport it automatically proves there is an original one. This is common sense. Mr. Roseborough idiotically states that it is an ‘application’ for an Israel immigration certificate. The application process for immigration called aliyah takes about 2 months and requires vetting etc. The ‘sochnut’ (Jewish Agency) which legally determines Jewish identity for civil (non-religious) purposes, issued me an immigration certificate stating Jewish identity ( I was legally declared Jewish because I did not discuss my faith). He said it was like him “applying for a pilot’s license and stating he can fly”. This is lunacy. A legal ID form to report a lost immigration certificate requesting it be replaced is not an application to obtain one. As usual, he is irrational, dishonest, and only trying to avoid debate on the actual issues he is running from. If he wants to examine my ID and DNA report etc., as I offered, all he needs to do is to show up to debate. His genealogy diversion, his Metatron diversion, and his cult leader diversion all prove that he is afraid to debate.

JJ Prasch / Moriel

Lately, we had assisted and help one of our Kitchen Workers on her ill child. The Doctor's prescription is to undergo EEG Lab. test . Attach is the EEG result. Since ( corona virus ) Covid-19 attack the Philippines, it was last week, the President announced a Community Quarantine for the National Capital Region. after a week there's another announcement that on March 17 the entire Luzon (Olongapo is part of it ) was in state of calamity-Enhance Community Quarantine or lock down until April 13,2020.

• Folks are advised to stay at home
• Observe to do everywhere a meter self distancing.
• Curfew Hour from 8p.m. to 5a.m.
• Prohibited big mass gathering.(we plan not to attend the coming Christian Summer Camp).

etc.

Cleansing and disinfecting the feeding area is one of our routine practice. As our prayers for the safety and good health of the children they must always wash their hands and we spray alcohol. We need to obey the National and City ordinance, the announcement regarding Covid-19. We need to change the procedure of feeding the children, it is just a temporary. We pack the meal then give it to those who come and to those who stay at home we deliver the food. After the lock down period we hope everything will back to normal. We're always praying for your good health together with all Moriel families. May God might always taking care each and every one of us on His loving arms. Thank you so much for all your prayers for us.

Sincerely,

in Christ
Ptr. Paul

 

I did like David Pawson personally, I usually agreed with him doctrinally, but to me he was more than that. He was truly the last of a dynasty of great British expository preachers dating back through Campbell Morgan, Dr. Martin Lloyds Jones, and all the way back to the era of Charles Spurgeon & JC Ryle.

His teaching ministry was a surviving vestige of an age gone by when Britain was still a Christian Country with an Evangelical heritage that evolved under God's Hand from the Great Revivals of John & Charles Wesley and George Whitfield with hymn composers like Issac Watts and Augustus Toplady and heroic missionaries such as Hudson Taylor and William Carey.

The last British born figure in scriptural exposition of that calibre of gifting has gone to be with The Lord. David was gracious and less confrontational concerning things he knew to be wrong than I would have been. Yet he would speak out when he saw a need to. In this he reminded me of my friend Chuck Smith who is now also awaiting us in Glory with Jesus.

David lived in the emotional pain of having been bereft off his dear daughter and in the closing years of his temporal life was greatly restricted in his mobility. When I last spoke with him by telephone he was bed bound due to his infirmity and advanced age.

Now however, David is living his eternal life with and in the Jesus whom he loved and served, and is now very happily reunited with his beloved daughter and no longer bound by anything.  Despite my sense of loss, In these things I of course rejoice. Miss him we shall, in a separation however that will only be temporary.

From John Bunyan and William Gurnall to CS Lewis, British Christianity produced its authors.
From Richard Baxter to John Newton Britain has produced its pastors. From Stephen Gardner to Clifford Hill Britain has had its voices of warning that some have described as prophetic. From Wycliffe to Tyndale to Coverdale it has produced its textual translators, and it has produced more martyrs than we can readily count. I do not think I am being unduly flattering in
lauding the legacy of David Pawson among the category of the greats whom The Lord raised up in Britain in times past. My only uncertainty is if or not God will send Britain such figures again.

To me, David Pawson will always be fondly remembered as 'The Last of The Mohicans'.

In Jesus,

J. Jacob Prasch
(Moriel Ministries)

Thank you so much!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65NBF2qqYeI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9UTID1XJc

https://youtu.be/ZfAtmm8aFJ4

 

'The last enemy to be destroyed is Death'

Praise God that Jesus died our death to give us His Life Eternal.

Praise God that He has abolished death; that is 'katargeo'' : (Rendered “Death Inoperative”) due to the certain Hope of The Resurrection.

Praise God that Steve is with Jesus and no longer suffers from pneumonia, Coved 19, diabetes, or cancer and wouldn't want to come back even if God allowed him to.

'TO LIVE IS CHRIST, TO DIE IS GAIN'!

Praise God that Steve will be back better than new for 1,000 Years to an earth better than this fallen one and that we will be with him as Jesus reigns.

Praise God that in this age of reprobation and apostasy and the coming antichrist Steve has been blessed with going home early.

Indeed we can and should thankfully praise God for all of these things.

Though this painful separation is but temporary, my soul grieves for Steve's beloved Supriya and precious little daughter Malia.

The Word of God tells us that 'The Lord is near to those who mourn'. Psalm 34:18 & Matthew 5:4

The God of all comfort will see them through this awful bereavement and secure their future
until they and we are with our friend and brother Steve again.

James Jacob Prasch
(Moriel)

 

In Jesus,

J. Jacob Prasch
(Moriel Ministries)

The Satanic Temple admitted proudly Wednesday that, in their belief system, killing an unborn baby in an abortion is a religious ritual similar to communion or baptism for Christians.

 

The gist of one type of Baptist Hitlerism ran something like, “Well he don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t chew, and don’t run with them that do.” Baptists and many others lauded Hitler’s evocation of a desperately needed new esprit de corps in Germany post-Versailles, improvements in transportation, and his kindness to his beloved German Shepherd Blondi, whom he had raised from a pup. It’s easy today to stand incredulous and appalled at the colossal collective blind spots that accommodated so much support for Hitler for so long from so many. But it was harder to see the truth about his horrible rise to power then, and many Baptists weighed Hitler in the scales of moral rectitude and weighed in with their support.

Read more here

 

This was to be a temporary provision. In compliance with New Zealand law however, Moriel NZ did at this time register with the NZ IRD (tax authority) who backdated our tax obligations to the time of Nigel's departure, and Moriel reported any NZ income to the NZ IND instead of to the Charity Commission.

As a matter of Christian ethics, Moriel offered a return of all donations to our NZ supporters as we were, for legal purposes, technically not operating as a tax deductible charity during the interim period. Generously and graciously however, our NZ Prayer partners understood the transitory circumstances and no one sought any return of contributions to the ministry. Although operated by "remote control" from the Australia branch, Moriel's NZ activities continued temporarily as a satellite of Australia. During this time of course, book sale and other income was for accounting & auditing purposes, (as is legally required,) reported in Australia where Moriel also has a legally registered status.

A new administration is now in place in New Zealand and the New Zealand branch of Moriel is in the process of being fully reactivated and re-registered transiting back to a charity and is no longer a satellite of Moriel Australia, (just as Moriel Canada branch is now independent and no longer a satellite of Moriel USA branch, or as Moriel Ireland branch is now independent and no longer a satellite of the Moriel UK branch).

I posted this on IFB facebook page yesterday, in response to Dave Borlase and his false and slanderous statement regarding Jacob Prasch. He has taken it down straight away, and removed his personal page and restricted the IFB page so I cannot reply. I am therefore posting this wherever I can so that people can see how despicable Dave Borlase is. "Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile" Psalm 34:13

His allegations are nothing more than gossip fuelled by an inability to refute the heretical teaching of David Nathan and put the word of GOD first. This alone disbars him from the office of Pastor. Anyone never mind a Christian leader who resorts to malicious gossip in an effort to attack someone else is beyond contempt. The fact it comes from a pastor and a ministry leader should sound the alarm bells far and wide. "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers" Ephesians 4:29

Dave has been totally dishonest and fickle throughout, simply to try and claim some limelight for himself and big up his ego.

Dave, what a coward you have proven to be. You issue unsubstantiated allegations and sit quietly for your moment for the spotlight to shine on you. "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23

Dave, you have become a gossip, and hide behind the statement "we have decided" when the reality it is Dave who wants revenge. I will never forget the underhand and deceitful way you published the original comments then, removed and denied what you had done.

You asked me to remove my rebuttal of your actions and lies from Facebook during the David Nathan sage, as you were concerned the harm it would do you and IFB.

In the spirit brotherly love, I did so hoping you would reconsider and use what common sense and decency you had. I removed the comments and thought nothing more of it.

Arrangements were made for meeting for reconciliation. You had called for this on several occasions, but each time arrangements were being made, you made demands. You wanted to be in charge. This bounced back and forward, with CMFI trying to oil the process and assist where they could. You just cancelled for reasons only known to you.

Even when offered by Jacob to meet with you personally and buy you lunch you still found a way to avoid the meetings you demanded.

Let the Muslim Council of Britain first condemn the actions of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem's role in the holocaust before jumping onto a popular bandwagon at this point, because the Labour Party has been hijacked by Islamists and it is the reason for Jeremy Corbyn counting on the Muslim's voting block to ignore blatant Muslim hijacking of the Labour Party to impose a culture of antisemitism, hatred of Jews, anti-Israel and anti-Zionism in the Labour Party.

The root of antisemitism in the Labour Party comes from this Muslim hijacking of Labour. It must not be swept under the carpet, as the role played by the Grand Muffti of Jerusalem during the holocaust, which has remained ignored that the Muslims were as guilty as Adolph Hitler. They should not just pretend and blame it on Jeremy Corbyn. Although Jeremy Corbyn is antisemite, and Muslims have exploited it for their benefits when they hijacked the Labour Party. Both are not different from the other, as Hajimi Al-Alhusseini was the tail, and Adolph Hitler was the head of a penny coin.

These two are not better than the other. Birds of the same feathers flocks together. No whitewash of their culpability should be ignored. They drove Jews out of the Labour Party. The slogan was Jews and Bible-Christians out of the Labour Party… Muslims take over. Therefore, any vote for the Labour Party, is a vote for ISLAM, sharia, and Islamisation of Great Britain. That is the agenda of MCB. They should not pretend, they hound with the DEVIL in the wee hours of the night, and come out publicly to weep with the bereaved, they murdered in the secret.

Fred was one of the most generous, self giving, and radically evangelistic brothers in Christ we have ever been blessed in knowing. For those who didn't know him, Fred was often described as a 'Saved Version of Fred Flintstone'. That was an apt description of his temperament, personality, and humour. Fred was a hard-working businessman in sports facility construction, a leader of a house fellowship, and a loyal friend & brother who loved The Lord and His Word and  carried a zeal to proclaim the gospel of salvation to Jews, tribal Africans, Muslims, or to anyone. While we of course celebrate Fred's home-coming to be with The Lord until we meet him again with Christ,  for we who remain , it will not be easy to get use to Fred being away until the Millennial Reign off Christ. It is for the time being a sad event as well as a joyous one. Fred was saved out of horse race gambling and devoted the rest of his life to serving Jesus and preaching the gospel. His kindness to the Ebyown HIV orphans will be particularly remembered as well as his staunch opposition to false doctrine and scripturally improper practices within the church. The Body of Christ in South Africa has lost a faithful voice and we have , how be it temporarily, lost a comrade in Christ and a true friend.

We particularly pray for Fred's English wife of many years Wendy and their children and grandchildren, especially Fred's son Lee to whom leadership of the Home Fellowship will fall.

We loved Fred and shall miss him dearly - but because of Jesus, not permanently.

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After much searching we've finally found a good place to rent for the Burmese/Shan church.  Jallay has named it Asian Mission Fellowship (AMF).  There were a few other good places to rent, but they were noisy from the road noise.  After the 3rd or 4th day of looking for a place, and after praying, we finally found one that's quiet-- a good distance from the road, but still in a good location.  And, it also has an outdoor area for children to play.

Along the main road there are at least 20 factories with many Burmese and Shan workers.  The first service is scheduled for February 2nd.  Jallay's asked me to give the opening message.  Myanmar has more Christians than Thailand, but it's still a small percentage, and mostly among the hill tribes, not the ethnically Burmese people.

The first contact that Jallay made was with a group of about 50 ethnically Burmese Buddhists.  The focus of this church is mostly evangelistic, but we welcome Christians, too of course.

Please pray for an awakening among the Burmese and Shan workers to come out of pagan darkness and to look to Jesus to be saved.

Thankful for Jesus' triumph over sin and death, Scott.

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1. The whole speculation by Peter Danzey that it is “probable” that the two witnesses of Rev 11 are the Father and the Holy Spirit (I don’t know of anyone else who has suggested this interpretation) is founded on multiple unproven assumptions and biblically inconsistent interpretations.
   
   
2. “Out of themselves” in Zech 4:12 cannot be proven from the Hebrew. When the various versions of the Bible are not in agreement on how to translate this phrase, it is better left alone, rather than basing an entire dogmatic doctrine on a “maybe/unlikely” rendering of the Hebrew.  That is a bad foundation to begin with.  The ESV for example, omits this phrase…
   KJV: Zec 4:12  And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 
   ESV: Zec 4:12  And a second time I answered and said to him, “What are these two branches of the olive trees, which are beside the two golden pipes from which the golden oil is poured out?” 
   
   If I pour oil out of myself, it still does not mean that I am the ultimate source of that oil (what do I have that I did not receive--- I Cor 4:7).  But, there are still many versions that don’t have that “out of themselves” rendering.  The Luther Bible doesn’t, and the Schlachter version of the German, also doesn’t.  To make a dogmatic stand on a controversial, and improbable rendering is not a good foundation for a doctrine.  Brenton’s English Septuagint doesn’t have it-- modern versions like the ESV and CEV, and even the NKJV don’t have it.
   
   The two words in question are in the Strong’s numbers H4480 and  H5921; both of which are vague and multi-meaning words.  We could not dogmatically take these as saying that the source is out of themselves.
   
   
3. Why would two divine theophanies need to be given anything or empowered? When comparing Zech 4 with Rev 11:3, instead of having the source of oil “out of themselves,” in Rev 11:3, the two witnesses are empowered/granted authority by the Lord.  This would be totally unnecessary if they were self-sufficient beings having the oil flowing “out of themselves.”  Rev 11:3 thus renders the “out of themselves”/divine witnesses viewpoint invalid.  
   
   
4. It assigns an insulting name to the Father and the Holy Spirit: To call the Father and the Holy Spirit “sons of oil” (The literal Hebrew rendering from Zechariah 4:14) doesn’t seem very honorific.  Here instead of being the source of the oil, they are in a subservient role to the oil, being “sons”—which is also another point against “out of themselves.”
   
   Zec 4:14  Then he said, “These are the two anointed ones [sons of oil] who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” 
   
   Keil and Delitzsch write, “…the two sons of oil, that is to say, the representatives of the kingdom and priesthood, the divinely appointed organs through which the Spirit of God was communicated to the covenant nation.”
   
   
5. The verse people love to quote in this chapter is, “…Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.” In the divine witnesses interpretation of the Father and Holy Spirit providing oil, this should be “but by my spirit and by the Father.” In that interpretation the suppliers of the oil are the Father and the Spirit.  So, why is only the Spirit mentioned here, as the supplier in Zech 4:6?
   
   
6. Peter Danzey thinks that the Menorah in Zech 4 represents the Word of God, and that the olive branches supplying it are thus divine. Most Christian commentators would see the Menorah as Israel, and the two olive branches as two anointed representatives of Israel in leadership roles.  We see clearly in the book of Revelation that the candlesticks are the seven churches.  The same Greek word that is used in Rev 1, is the same Greek word that is used in Rev 11 of the two witnesses.  Regardless of the numbers—whether 7 or 2, etc. we see that they are members of the Church.  This shines light on the Zech 4 passage as well.  If the candlesticks are the Church in the NT, then the logical counterpart to this in the OT is Israel, not the Word of God as some commentators assert.  Thus Israel was being supplied by the two “sons of oil” or anointed ones—the representatives of God who were anointed, namely the king and the priest, who in turn were empowered by the Holy Spirit.  Please see Appendix A for commentators who see the Candlestick/ Menorah as Israel.
   
   
7. In the book of Zech we had ONE candlestick and TWO olive trees. But now in Rev we have TWO of each.  The TWO olive trees are a constant factor, which I believe to be “the representatives of the kingdom and priesthood [e.g. Zerubbabel and Joshua; Moses and Aaron; etc.]” in the words of the German commentators (and also in most Christian commentaries—not that commentaries are without fault, but let everything be confirmed by two or three witnesses—and all the more so if they are believers in the Messiah).  Why only one candlestick in Zech 4 if it represents God’s Word, but then two candlesticks in Rev 11—does it then represent the two testaments of the Word of God?  But, this is not consistent with what the book of Revelation itself says the candlesticks represent (Revelation 1:20).  If the Father and the Holy Spirit are both taking on the name “the Word of God” in Rev 11 (which is the name used by Jesus, so that is unwarranted), why were there not two candlesticks in Zech 4 (another inconsistency in this speculation built on many assumptions).  
   
   
8. Jesus' incarnation was prophesied hundreds of times in the Old Testament. If the Father and Holy Ghost are to be incarnated as the two witnesses, why are there no prophecies of this?  "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."  (Amos 3:7)
   
   
9. When was the Father ever sent in the Bible? In Revelation 11:10 the two witnesses are also called the two prophets.  True prophets are always sent by God.  In the Bible we have verses about Jesus being sent (Luke 4:18), and the Holy Ghost being sent for believers (John 15:26), but we do not see the Father ever being sent.  Also, although Jesus was called a prophet (Matthew 13:57; 14:5; 21:11; 21:46; Luke 7:16; 13:33; 24:19; John 4:19; 6:14; 7:40; 9:17), we do not see the Holy Ghost or the Father being called a prophet.  In Deuteronomy 18:18, we are to expect only one prophet who is "like unto Moses," which is Jesus, not three prophets like unto Moses.        
   
   
10. Rev 11 should be compared with Zech 2-4, not just 4 (no chapter breaks in the original texts). Taking the two olive trees and the two candlesticks to be two human representatives of the Church and Israel, just as Joshua and Zerubbabel were in the context of Zech chapters 2-4, considering that Zech 2 starts with "measuring" and Zech 4 ends with the two olive trees/branches, just as Rev 11:1 starts with "measuring" and continues with talking about the two olive trees. So, taking chapters 2-4 as one "unit" would include both Joshua and Zerubbabel in the topic at hand.  Why eliminate or ignore Joshua and Zerubbabel’s role in the context of Zech 2-4, since the majority of Christian commentators point to them as fulfilling the meaning of the olive trees?
    
    
11. Also, in the Bible God is not the Olive Tree, which the End Times Double Theophany view implies, but Israel is (Rom 11). There are no verses in the Bible comparing God to an olive tree, but there are verses comparing Israel or members of Israel to an olive tree.
    
    David compares himself to an olive tree:  Psa_52:8  But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.
    
    Jacob under judgment was like the shaking of an olive tree:  Isa 17:6  Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel. 
    
    The people of Judah and Jerusalem were called an olive tree:  Jer 11:16  The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken. 
    
    Israel’s beauty shall be as the olive tree:  Hos 14:5-6  I will be as the dew unto Israel: he shall grow as the lily, and cast forth his roots as Lebanon.  His branches shall spread, and his beauty shall be as the olive tree, and his smell as Lebanon. 
    
    In Romans 11 Israel is the olive tree into which believers in the Messiah are grafted in.
    
    
12. If the End Times Double Theophany doctrine about Rev 11 is correct, which I don’t think it is, then why not just teach it openly, putting the sermon online? With any other biblical doctrine, preachers teach it openly. The fact that this has been kept somewhat secret, for five years or however long this has been believed, should say something (red flag).  It is a strange doctrine, and would rightly get a lot of naysayers from among biblically minded Christians if it were put on YouTube.  But, I’m actually glad a sermon of Rev 11 hasn’t been put online, because it would just cause confusion, instead of building people up with sound doctrine.
    
    
13. An End Times Double Theophany COULD NOT EVEN be considered a “type” of the Genesis 18-19 Abraham visitation (which in itself has not been proven to be a visitation by the trinity—most Christian scholars see this as Jesus appearing with two angels). In Rev 11 we don’t see three visitors--- which would be required to call this following a previous “type,” but rather only two visitors. So, Gen 18-19 is in a totally different category than Rev 11.
14. Also, in the incarnation of Jesus, the entire trinity was already involved—The Holy Spirit was present with Jesus, empowering Him for ministry, and Jesus listened to the Father’s voice, acting in accordance to His will. Why is there any need for the Father and Holy Spirit to come again separately in the role of prophets who are slain? This is not prophesied, nor is it foreshadowed in typology, nor is it in keeping with the consistently biblical roles within the trinity.
    
15. When does God the Father ever appear in a theophany in the Bible? We don’t see this. “Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father” (John 6:46).  Exodus 23:20 has been suggested by Peter Danzey, but this is an assumption without warrant.  Taking the entire context of that verse, beginning with Exodus chapter 19, we see that the Lord did come down (Jesus), but that the law was spoken “from heaven” (Exodus 20:22).  Whenever in the Bible we see the Lord speaking from heaven, it is usually the Father.  Even if he was speaking with Moses on the mountain, it does not mean that he was physically present.  God the Father is omnipresent, but His “base of operations” so to speak, is in heaven (“Our Father which are in heaven” --Matthew 6:9).
    
    In modern terms I could say that I hear someone’s voice from America, even though I live in Thailand.  Someone from America could call me on the phone, and though they are not physically present with me, I can hear their voice.  God’s “technology” is far beyond that, and He can speak “from heaven” even if He is not theophonically present.  Please see Appendix B.
16. In Rev 11:8, the KJV says “our Lord,” but many modern versions say “their Lord.” This is a debatable point based on which Greek texts are used, but if the modern texts are correct then it would be strange for “their Lord” to be in reference to the Father and Holy Spirit, meaning that Jesus would be the Lord of the Father and Holy Spirit. The final verse of Zech 4 in both Hebrew and in the LXX indicates that the Two are distinct from The Lord and not The Lord (lending credence to the translation of Rev 11:3 'their Lord'). However, Peter Danzey (although not KJV-only) believes that the Textus Receptus is more accurate, and doesn’t claim that the two witnesses called Jesus “their Lord.” 
17. The commentators Meyer and Bengel think that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will be crucified (please see Appendix C). This is definitely a possibility, but all of the other commentaries I checked do not mention this, and of note, none of the English translations say that the witnesses will be crucified. So, it is a possibility, but not an irrefutable point, seeing the way Greek scholars have omitted this in translating it into English.  Also, Peter Danzey’s particular view says the witnesses will be slain, but not crucified.  He thinks they will be slain, but that this is in no way related to the atonement.  He believes Jesus fully accomplished the atonement already. 
    
    
18. Why do the two witnesses in Rev 11:7 need to be killed by the beast? When Jesus became a man his death had a redemptive purpose. What is the purpose of the beast getting victory over the Father and the Holy Ghost?  Is it to fill up the people’s sins so that the full wrath of God can be poured out?  I don't see that as a satisfactory answer, because people already have plenty of sins and blasphemies without this one.  When some of Jesus’ disciples were crucified they proved their faithfulness and also confirmed the witness they gave about Jesus’ life.  But, what possible purpose could there be in the death of the Father and the Holy Spirit?  This is a strange doctrine that would give the enemies of the Jesus much fodder for accusation (Muslims already stumble at hearing that Jesus died on the cross, but that one is very much explainable).
    
    
19. Why would the Father and HS come in the character of Moses and Elijah? Moses said God would raise up a prophet like unto me (not three prophets like unto me).
20. Producing uncertainty in the Word of God: In the message, “Angels On Earth” by Peter Danzey (May 5^th, 2019), (Peter Danzey thinks Genesis 18 and 19 are related to the Rev 11 “probable” theophanies) at the 1:02 min. mark said, “Now, there is no doubt that there are some oddities if they are created angels, right? There are oddities, but if they are all Yahweh, there’s not one oddity.”
    
    If someone does not agree with the assumptions made in the previous message, it could leave them wondering if there are oddities in the Word of God.  Please see Appendix D for just a few of the assumptions made in that message. 

 

Appendix A

What Does the Menorah Represent?

1. In Rev 11:3-4 each of the two witnesses represents both an olive tree and a candlestick.
2. Rev 1:20 clearly states what category the candlestick belongs to—the Church. In that sense the two witnesses are members of Jesus’ Church having this characteristic as part of being a candlestick symbolically.
3. The witnesses are also represented by an olive tree, which in Scripture is overwhelmingly Israel or a member of Israel.
4. The two witnesses are thus members of both the Church and Israel—in other words they are Jewish Christians.
5. In the book of Revelation, the candlestick (Menorah) is in the category of the Church. The counterpart to this in the OT is Israel.  In Zech 4, there is only ONE candlestick (Israel), whereas in the NT, there are TWO, representing both Israel and the Church.
   
   

Why quote from Jewish commentators who think otherwise, when many of the Jews did not even recognize their own Messiah?  Commentators who have accepted their Messiah whether Jewish or Gentile, and who have the full light of the NT to understand the OT have greater authority here.  Christian commentators who say the Menorah is Israel… 

John Gill says, “This candlestick was set in the holy place, on the south side of it, opposite the shewbread table, Exo_26:35 and was typical of the church of God; so the candlesticks John had a vision of signify seven churches, Rev_1:13, the general use of which is, to hold forth light put into it, for it has none of itself, but what is put there by Christ…”

Keil and Delitzsch say, “As the Israelites were to prepare spiritual food in the shew-bread in the presence of Jehovah…. so also were they to present themselves continually to Jehovah in the burning lamps, as the vehicles and media of light, as a nation letting its light shine in the darkness of this world…. By the power of this Spirit, Israel, in covenant with the Lord, was to let its light shine, the light of its knowledge of God and spiritual illumination, before all the nations of the earth. In its seven arms the stamp of the covenant relationship was impressed upon the candlestick…. the olive-trees [of Zech 4] are the two sons of oil, that is to say, the representatives of the kingdom and priesthood, the divinely appointed organs through which the Spirit of God was communicated to the covenant nation [Israel, the Menorah].”

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia says, “In Zechariah's vision of the golden candlestick (Zec_4:2), the seven lamps are fed by two olive trees which are interpreted to be “the two anointed ones,” Zerubbabel and Joshua - the civil and spiritual representatives of theocracy. The candlestick here, like the seven candlesticks in Rev_1:20, 21, symbolizes the church of God, then in its Old Testament form, the idea conveyed being that God's church is set to be a lightgiver in the world.”

Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown in their comment on Zech 4:2, say, “candlestick — symbolizing the Jewish theocracy; and ultimately, the Church of which the Jewish portion is to be the head: the light-bearer…”

The Cambridge Bible commentary says, “…the work in which he [Zerubbabel] was engaged, of restoring the material Temple and setting the golden candlestick in its place again, and so preparing the way, first for the Jewish Church, and then for the Christian Church, which that candlestick symbolised(Rev_1:20), to shine in the world, should be accomplished, not by human resources, but by the Spirit of God…”

Joseph Benson says, “And I said, Behold a candlestick of gold — This represented the church of God, Jewish and Christian, set up for the enlightening of this dark world, by diffusing the light of divine truth.”

The Sermon Bible says, “By the candelabrum was symbolised the Israelitish community, the nation of the old covenant, the people of theocracy. But Israel was itself a symbol and type; it was the visible manifestation of that invisible spiritual community, the Church of the living God, which embraces the faithful of all ages and places. It is represented as made of the most precious of metals, pure gold, to indicate the worth and excellence of that which God hath chosen for Himself as His special treasure; and it is represented as having seven lamps, to indicate that the Church is a luminous body, having light in itself, and appearing as the luminary from which proceeds light to the world.”

Nelson’s Complete Book of Bible Maps and Charts equates the lampstand of Zech 4 to Israel.

Bill Randles in the book “God Remembers:  The Visions and Words of the Prophet Zechariah,” says, “The candlestick is the symbol of the role of Israel as the witness to the Gentiles, and to the glory of the only true God.  Israel was the original ‘city of a hill’ referred to in the Sermon on the Mount.  Isaiah and Micah both feature visions of the nations streaming to Zion to come into the light of God’s salvation.”

Appendix B

Our Father Which Art in Heaven

In the book of Matthew especially there is an emphasis on God the Father being in heaven.  This is stated fifteen times in the book of Matthew!  We are supposed to direct our prayers to our Father in heaven (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2).  In both the OT and the NT we see that God spoke from heaven and heard prayers from heaven.  Four times it’s stated by Solomon that heaven is God’s dwelling place from which God would hear prayer—this is recorded twice so that it’s actually stated eight times in the Bible (I Kings 8 and 2 Chronicles 6).

 

Using the same two Hebrew words as in Solomon’s prayer (“shamayim” and “yashab”), God the Father is said to be sitting in the heavens and then setting His king (Jesus) on Zion (Psalm 2:4-6).  Twenty times in Scripture, God is called “the God of heaven.”

God sent rain from heaven, sometimes stopped the rain from heaven, looked down from heaven, sent bread from heaven, etc.

Voice From Heaven

God spoke to the children of Israel from heaven.  Moses was not excluded from this conversation in Exodus 20:22.  We consistently see especially in the NT, God the Father speaking from heaven.  God told Moses in Exodus 19:11 to get the people ready, because the Lord would be coming down (Just as in the NT Jesus is the One who declares and shows the ways of the Father, so in the OT, Jesus also did—John 1:18). 

In the book of John, it is said eight times that Jesus “came down/cometh down” from heaven.  We see various other times that Jesus “went down” in the OT, such as to the tower of Babel (Gen 11:5), to Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 18:21, which he did do before sending judgement in Gen 19:24).  And, it makes sense that in Exodus 3:8; 19:11; 19:18; 19:20 and 34:5, it is also Jesus, the Lord, who came down, not the Father.  The Father’s voice was heard from heaven, which is clearly stated in Ex 20:22, just as in modern times a person may call a friend half way around the world, and that friend can hear their voice, even if they are not physically present. 

We see consistently in Scripture that Jesus is the One who comes down in physical form and declares the ways of the Father, both in the OT and the NT, and that the Father operates from heaven, though He is omnipresent, just as Jesus and the Holy Spirit are also.

The Father Speaking From Heaven

---Exo 20:22  And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. 

---Neh 9:13  Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments: 

---2Sa 22:14  The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. 

---Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 

---Mar 1:11  And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 

---Luk 3:22  And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 

---Joh 12:28  Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 

---2Pe 1:17  For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 

2Pe 1:18  And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 

---Rev 10:4  And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 

---Rev 11:12  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 

---Rev 14:2  And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 

---Rev 14:13  And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. 

---Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 

Fire From Heaven

Seeing that consistency in Scripture, it also makes sense that it was Jesus who visited Abraham on earth, and who was overseeing the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah on earth, while God the Father was in heaven:

--- Gen 19:24  Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 

---2Ki 1:10;12;14…Fire fell twice, consuming those coming to get Elijah

---1Ch 21:26…on an altar David built to show him favor 

---2Ch 7:1…on the sacrifices made by Solomon, showing him favor

---Rev 20:9  And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 

Appendix C

Commentators Who Think The Two Witnesses Will Be Crucified

Meyer wrote, “Again, the text itself shows this, partly by the καὶ before ὁ κύρ. αὐτ., partly by the expression ὁ κύρ. αὐτων. Both belong inwardly together; as the two witnesses, so also their Lord was there slain, crucified; the servants have suffered the same thing as their[2879] Lord.[2880] This is accordingly made prominent, because from this it becomes clear that the antichristian enmity of the great city remains always the same; with the same hatred as that wherewith they formerly once brought the Lord there to the cross, they now slay the two witnesses just because they are his witnesses.”

Bengel wrote, “In the text they are not said to lie. What, if you should suppose that they will be suspended, as their Lord also was suspended from the cross?.... Whether the city has the place of the cross within the walls at the present day, or has not (for travellers are at variance with one another, and those who deny it, do so with far greater appearance of truth), at the time of the witnesses, at least, it will undoubtedly have the place of the cross in the street, either within the walls or without”

Appendix D

The message, “Angels On Earth” (May 5^th, 2019) by Peter Danzey contains numerous assumptions.  The following is not a comprehensive list, just a few randomly chosen:

---“Malak” almost certainly means a divine being?

In Gen 19:1 two angels went down to Sodom (Malak- messenger/angel can be the angel of the Lord—Jesus.  But often times Malak is used in the OT not referring to a divine being at all—almost half of the times the KJV translates Malak it is messenger[s], ten times it’s used of angels plural and about five times of ambassadors—we cannot assume the use of Malak to mean a divine person).  Even if we limit the search to only the Pentateuch, which is an unreasonable limitation when we’re looking for the possible meanings of the word—the Pentateuch uses this word 39 times, 9 of which do not mean a divine being, and 4 of which are debatable (in the message only 3 uses of “Malak” are mentioned which are “ambiguous”).  To look only at the cases where “Malak” is a Christophany, and ignore literally over a hundred uses of “Malak” biases the hearers unreasonably. 

---The Hebrew word “shachah” (H7812) can only mean worship?

When Lot bowed to the ground before the two angels in Gen 19:1, it doesn't necessarily mean worship, as it could be a cultural practice of just honor, submission, and respect.  Using the same Hebrew word as in Gen 19:1, Jacob bowed to the ground before Esau in Gen 33:3, Ruth bowed to the ground before Boaz in Ruth 2:10, and the same is true of David before Jonathan, Abigail before David, and others.

---Only God can close the door?

We have angels opening doors in the NT.  Why can they not close a door if God commands them to this task?

---Angels cannot eat with people?

What verse prohibits this?

---God does not consult with people/angels (Gen 18:17-19)?

Jesus consulted with His disciples before feeding the masses miraculously.  Did He need to?  No, He didn’t.  He also asked other people questions of which He already knew the answer.  So, it’s not out of character in Gen 18 if these are angels Jesus is talking to.

---Angels cannot deviate from previous instructions (Gen 19:2-3; 17-22).

This assumes we know what the instructions were, which we don’t.  If a man sells some land, and goes through an agent, leaving the agent in charge and telling him you can lower the cost by xxxxx dollars if need be, the agent is still faithful if he sells the land on behalf of the man, lowering the cost to within what he specified.  Likewise God could have given instructions with caveats, knowing what Lot would ask for.  If the two “angels” are God, the following verse does not sound very sovereignly authoritative:  Gen 19:22  “Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.”

This message is a stepping stone to the Rev 11 double theophanies proposed by Peter Danzey, but a case that is based on unproven assumptions is not very convincing.  I didn’t take a lot of time to look into every point, but just the fact that there are the above unproven assumptions shows that it’s not a slam dunk case, especially when most Christian commentators would see Gen 18-19 as a theophany of Jesus appearing with two angels. 

The continued support and promotion by Bill Randles of various false teachers of serious false doctrines that Moriel finds heretical are of great concern to the Moriel board.

 

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The only commentaries on the inter-testamental apocryphal literature of which I am familiar are lexical commentaries focused on Greek grammar, vocabulary, and syntax .

As with the Septuagint, (LXX) , apocryphal literature is of value in understanding the New Testament in terms of literature and history. Unlike the LXX however, it is not canon and thus not a basis of doctrine.

Such books assist in understanding New Testament books from a literary and historical perspective which in turn as exegetical supppament, indirectly contributes to our grasp of doctrine.

Jesus for instance observed Chanukah in John chapter 10 ( translated ‘Feast of Dedication’). He knew and accepted that the prophetic predictions of Daniel have their fulfillment recorded in The Apocryphal books of I & II Maccabees, not in scripture. In the Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24 additionally, Jesus made it clear that the partially fulfilled predictions of Daniel with the ‘Abomination of Desolations' recorded in the Apocrypha was a type of the future apocalyptic prophetic predictions of the antichrist in The Book of Revelation and in 2 Thessalonians.

Thus, it is biblically important history necessary to comprehend future prophecy. 

Enoch is cited in the Epistle of Jude. One of the features most important about Enoch is that it is the Literary primer for the Book of Revelation showing how the literary genre of Hebrew apocalyptic literature from Daniel, Zechariah, Isaiah, Ezekiel etc, is translated into Greek apocalyptic and vocabulary 

where Sheol becomes hades, Leviathan becomes Apollyon etc. From a literary viewpoint, Enoch helps us make sense of certain Gospel portions , sections of Peter’s epistles, of Jude, and again The Book of Revelation in light of the Old Testament.

From a historical aspect, Enoch bears similarities to the Book of Jasher , to the ‘Antiquities’ of Josephus, and to certain early Mishnaic writings from early Mishna . In the Book of Acts for instance at Stephen’s apology in Acts 7 he begins with the saga of the Patriarch Abraham not in Haran where Genrsus commences it, but in Ur of the Chaldees. In Timothy Pail informs us that the names of Pharaoh’s magicians in Exodus were Janus and Jambres. In other words, The New Testament tells us that there were historical facts of some theological importance that , as with the story of the Maccabees, were recorded outside of the canon of scripture but which are necessary to correctly understand scripture. Another short Treatise like this is The Didache.

What is important to remember is that such books are of literary and historical value in contributing to properly interpreting The Word of God, but on their own are not a basis of doctrinal theology.

The only apocryphal commentaries I would have had use for are lexical academic commentaries of little use to readers not knowing Hebrew, Aramaic. and Greek. If you are competent in biblical languages however, please get back to us and I will suggest a few lexical commentaries. Not to sound arrogant, however the likelihood is that if you know biblical languages, you went to seminary and do not need to ask me what you already know. Therefore I assume you do not read biblical languages which the most serious commentaries on apocryphal books essentially require. 

In Jesus,

Jacob Prasch / Moriel

In the fall of 2018 David Nathan was dismissed from Moriel Ministries due to heretical teachings that included the affirmation that the blood of animals would atone for sin in the millennium apart from the blood of Christ and that believers can prescriptively anoint clothing with divine power for healing, going so far as to cite examples of people being “slain in the spirit” as a result of touching his jacket and tie quite as a matter of fact. He is on record as saying there will come a time when, “…the blood of Jesus Christ will not profit anyone anything.” There is no possible reality in which this statement is true. It is a demonstrable heresy that denies the gospel and every book of the bible in some way. In the wake of his dismissal, many were confused and upset. One such individual was Graham Baldwin who claims to have began independently “watching” the situation as he is supposedly a cult “expert”. Baldwin has produced a 3-part yellow journalism entry that sounds about as personal as any attack could. This so-called cult “expert” claims that Jacob Prasch is under investigation, but is he really?

 

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We specifically refer to internet posted material by the Catalyst organisation acting in apparent concert with the 'My Organizer' business enterprise of Stuart & Debora Menelaus of Fife, Scotland operating variously under the names of Bethel Communications and GV 24/7. Along with the continuing diatribe by someone using the pseudonym tbckwaii. Who does not have the credibility or courage to disclose who he really is.

We first of all note that the claim that Moriel is under investigation is in itself devoid of substance as there is and has been no investigation, criminal or otherwise, by any government , police, or judicial agency. It is a contrived and defamatory assertion. intended to give Catalyst kudos but shows them to be rather inept and foolish.

As senior police detectives we fundamentally reject such assertions directed against the Moriel Ministry and against Jacob Prasch as  bogus and having no merit nor actual evidence. We have all known Jacob Prasch personally and are well familiar with Moriel for a number of years and any inordinate activity either personal or financial would have been recognized by us, and detected by any police investigator over a period of time. There has been none however. From the perspective of a police investigation, these allegations appear manufactured and meritless and personally vindictive using immature bullying and harassment tactics falsely portrayed as qualified superiority. From the initial leading of the witness David Nathan on the GV247 program to the continued use of hearsay and conjecture by Catalyst, they have only made themselves look vindictive and motivated by spite. There is no evidence that would pass any criminal or civil threshold test, and they know it, otherwise they would have handed it over to a statutory authority .There is no justifiable or evidential basis for this continued attack by supposed Christian brethren harassment; there is nothing established on the basis of  any verifiable fact.

Such defamatory claims moreover are readily off-set by a range of witnesses intimately familiar with Moriel and its director whose testimonies are uniformly an endorsement of honesty and good character.

It is our assessment as senior investigating police detectives from three different nations with lifetime careers investigation crime and fraud that no credible police agency or jurisdiction would lend credence to the demonstrably contorted insinuations and character assassination attempts found in these unsubstantiated charges aimed at Moriel Ministries and against Jacob Prasch. His integrity remains secure, but that of the afore mentioned must be considered tarnished.

Sincerely,

Sergeant Amos Farrell
Sr. Investigating Detective (ret.)
Scotland Yard
London, UK

Captain Michael Benade
Commanding Police Detective (ret.)
South Africa Police

Sergeant Michael Keaney
Senior Detective - Investigator
New Zealand Police

 

1. We would, in the first instance, encourage all interested parties to revisit Scriptures relating to the resolution of disputes, to matters of church discipline, and of dealing with false doctrine, in particular: Matthew 18:15-17; Romans 16:17,18; Galatians 6:1; 1Corinthians 6:1-8; 2Timothy 2:23-26; James 4:11; 2John: 9-11.
2. CMFI remains of the opinion that central to, and at the core of this dispute, remains the questionable teaching of David Nathan. Had Mr. Nathan responded quickly and privately to requests to clarify certain aspects of his doctrine, it is likely that the situation would not have escalated to current levels. Much of that which has followed has been a deflection away from the issue of doctrine to become an issue of behaviour. Whereas neither bad doctrine nor bad behaviour is condoned, many have lost sight of the fundamental issue at the core of the dispute.
3. In regard to bad behaviour, a difficulty in dealing with the ongoing dispute is that this is, for many of us, the first time we have had to process such a dispute taking place in such an open public forum, so widely available to many. The fact that opportunity exists to make derogatory and defamatory statements in a wide range of media, does not necessarily make it right to do so. The anonymity, easy access, and availability of a platform afforded by the internet is no excuse to disregard the authority of the Bible. There is much comment on this dispute, posted on the internet purporting to be godly, made by those who have not in every instance sought to follow Biblical procedure.
4. In regard to the internet and social media aspect of this dispute, CMFI is aware that certain of it's members, actively involved in Moriel Ministries, have previously offered to remove all inflammatory content from those sites for which it is responsible. In return, request was made for the other protagonists in the dispute to do likewise. This would have afforded some protection against further damage being done not only to the individuals concerned, but perhaps of greater importance to the wider church also. CMFI is given to understand that this offer was declined by those who continue to pursue certain CMFI members, not all of whom represent Moriel Ministries. CMFI is thankful that Moriel have desisted from retaliating against certain claims made against it, via the internet and social media, though it respects it's right to respond according to Biblical protocol.
5. In regard to certain of those claims. CMFI is not aware of any formal investigation being made against Moriel Ministries in any of the countries in which it operates. Furthermore, to the best of it's knowledge, Moriel Ministries continues to operate within the fiscal regulations of those countries in which it and it's associated organisations operate.
6. Further, CMFI does not believe that Moriel is a cult which venerates it's own leader. Not only does Moriel not have members, but it adheres to a statement of faith which is broadly that of most evangelical churches. Also, all CMFI members are required to agree with the CMFI statement of faith. Jesus Christ is central to that statement of faith.                
7. To those who would hold CMFI accountable for the behaviour of its members, we would point out that all para-church ministries are in the first instance accountable to their own board of trustees, and individuals are accountable to their own local church leadership. Where any member of CMFI is considered to be acting in a way that is prejudicial to the interests of CMFI, the CMFI Council will undertake any relevant action internally and privately, and is under no compulsion to make its findings public.

The CMFI Council

www.cmfi.org.uk

 

If Netanyahu is able to further cement his position as the second longest serving leader in Israeli history, coupled with unprecedented support from Washington, and a burgeoning relationship with Saudi Arabia and especially some of the Gulf states; we may see a final death blow to any notion of the two state solution agenda, involving land for peace which has been peddled by the international community since Oslo in 1993. Indeed, this process had already begun when Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital last year and then rather conveniently recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights three weeks before the election (thereby handing his ally an Ace). The next logical continuation of this sequence of events (after a win) would be for Netanyahu to seek a green light from Trump to annex at least those major settlement blocks in close proximity to the green line such as Gush Etzion.

Netanyahu has been posturing the promise of security at the forefront of his manifesto pledge. According to polls, after two Intifadas and near continuous low-level conflict the majority of Jewish Israelis are disillusioned by the prospects for peace. Instead they are resigned to transforming Israel into a fortress and view Netanyahu as the man who can deliver the goods. That is, until Ganz appeared on the scene as a viable contender and formed a centrist-left wing party to challenge Likud's grip on power. Akin to former Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Ganz comes with stellar military credentials, being a former Chief of Staff. Previous electoral challengers to Netanyahu have been rebuffed as being soft on security. Obviously it is far more difficult to characterize Ganz in such a light. But that hasn't prevented Netanyahu from trying. He went as far as to insinuate that his opponent may be being black mailed by Iran after reportedly having his iPhone hacked by their subversive operatives.

In the international arena, if Likud wins Israel will become both more and less isolated. The existing natural ties between Trump and Netanyahu will presumably strengthen. Israel will likely continue to forge relationships with certain elements of the ruling classes of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states; especially in the face of continued Iranian belligerence and attempts to attain regional dominance over the Sunnis. Under Netenyahu’s leadership India has also recently emerged as a strategic partner, with Israeli arms sales being the bedrock of their cordial relations. This will probably continue. Conversely, Israel will likely become further alienated from the EU. This is in part due to the strained relations between the Trump administration and Brussels. But is further exacerbated by the EU’s opposition to Likud’s stance on settlement building. With Netanyahu plausibly emboldened by US support to accelerate such activity post - election victory, this animosity will increase.

Israel has been involved in a proxy war with Iran on three main fronts: Lebanon, Syria and Gaza. The IDF sustained a bloody nose at the hands of Iranian funded and directed Hizbollah in the summer of 2006, despite delivering significant damages to Hizbollah in return. Since then the northern border has largely remained quiet and Israel's efforts to contain the paramilitary group have mostly centered on supporting opposing Sunni forces in the ongoing Syrian Civil War.

In Syria, Israel has launched direct military strikes against Iranian assets. This low-level tussle may blow up into full scale conflict should Netanyahu win a further term. This is largely due to the fact that Assad, animated by Russia and Iran, has de-facto won the Civil War and Iran’s military presence in the country has become entrenched. Netanyahu has indicated that he is unwilling to accept such a state of affairs. There will also most likely be a major operation in Gaza; especially if there are further rocket attacks, like the ones we have witnessed recently.

The weak policy of Obama not keeping his "red line" warning to Syria, and the vacuum left by the Obama administration in Iraq that was filled by Isis whom Obama ridiculed as a mere "JV team", created a complicated mess inherited by Trump. Israel and the USA on one hand, as well as Syria and Iran backed by Putin on the other, were both pitted against an Isis that is now all but destroyed in Syria as Trump pledged. The three-way conflict thrust on Netanyahu and bequeathed to Trump however, further complicated by the ambiguous position of Turkey and Erdogan, engendered an insurmountable quagmire that left Assad in power despite the success in eradicating Isis. The Sunni Isis Caliphate was effectively replaced by a Shia Iranian nexus extending via Syria into Lebanon with adjuncts in Gaza.

On the financial front, in the absence of unforeseen circumstances the economy overall will continue to grow due to favorable free market policies championed by Netanyahu that attract foreign investment in terms of both capital and research and development -especially in the high-tech industry. Adversely, Chareidi participation in the workforce will remain stunted due to Likud being obliged to concede subsidies to this sector in order to retain the support of the religious parties in its coalition; thus demotivating this community from obtaining gainful employment.

Netanyahu has promised to reserve several seats in his coalition and cabinet posts for ultra nationalist parties who many would argue are opposed to the fundamental tenets of western democratic liberalism. Giving them such a platform may impact government policy vis a vis Israel’s Arab minority; as has arguably already been the case with the right wing coalition passing Israel’s Jewish nation state law last year. This piece of legislation defined Israel as a State for the Jewish people rather than for all its citizens. We may see additional comparable statutes promulgated by the Knesset following a Likud win.

SO MUCH HAPPENS IN THE NEWS EVENTS EVERY WEEK OF PROPHETIC IMPORTANCE. BUT HOW ISRAELI BELIEVERS EXPERIENCE AND VIEW THESE THING?

YESHUA TOLD US PLAINLY IN MATTHEW 10 THAT WE SHALL NOT FINNISH EVANGELIZING ISRAEL BEFORE HE RETURNS. PETER'S EPISTLE SAYS WE CAN HASTEN HIS COMING. CAN WE 'HASTEN THE SECOND COMING' OF YESHUA BY EVANGELIZING ISRAEL?

PLEASE JOIN US IN WELCOMING ISRAELI PASTOR YOSI OVADIA FROM GALILEE AS HE JOINS JACOB PRASCH IN EXPLORING '"THE BODY OF MESSIAH IN MODERN ISRAEL".
 

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Closing date Feb 28th 2019.

Moriel TV has already ceased commenting on the David Nathan issue and we have ceased responding to his proponents and defenders such as Deborah and Stuart Menelaws though we stand by the factual accuracy of what had been reported.We reject as hyperbolic nonsense the hideous demands of Graham Baldwin & his Catalyst organization and the Menelaws of GV 24/7 framed in language that may legally constitute blackmail and urging litigation against us.

According to their website, Baldwin's 'Catalyst' "have no religious beliefs" and will represent anyone of any religion (Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist), or of any sexual orientation (heterosexual, homosexual, lesbian) claiming religious abuse for the suggested contribution of 50 British Pounds per hour, and say they are not a 'Christian' organization of saved believers in Christ.

Jacob Prasch moreover is not even on Social Media and is therefore in no position to 'e-stalk' or harass anyone. As the ROKU financial report of Moriel shows, no wages for Jacob Prasch appear in the audits of Moriel UK because Jacob does not receive any, nor any royalties, and all of our recorded materials are freely available at no cost on the Internet. We invite anyone to download any material of Moriel or Jacob Prasch free of charge, only requesting it not be edited or commercially sold. Giving it away is encouraged. Sadly however, contrary to our wishes, the Menelaws continue to commercially sell filmed material featuring Jacob Prasch.

Emails sent by us in response to vitriolic attacks against Moriel Ministries and Jacob Prasch claimed to be abusive by Mr. Baldwin and Menelaws have notably not been produced by them, essentially because read in context such do not exist. These are merely replies to hostile attacks upon us including libelous allegations of mental illness. Claims that expert opinion in documentaries are not paid is denied by the BBC & UK Channel 4, and the 'Daniel Connection' in which Jacob Prasch and other Christians appeared unsalaried was a movie with a plot and acting, not a documentary, and as reported, was commercially sold to Hollywood and to China. Unlike Moriel which publishes its audited financial records, the Menelaw's operations have not.

Moriel has declined to reply to more recent emails by David Nathan and Deborah Menelaws who seem pointlessly intent on keeping this monster alive. All that needs to be established doctrinally and otherwise has been stated and re-stated already and we do not intend to be participants in this Christ dishonoring religious charade triggered by such heresy as 'God The Father not being Creator', and those who defend such lies. For us it has been over for weeks.

Others wishing to drag it out, will continue to be ignored. while acting on behalf of Menelaws in a video produced by Menelaws we have been pronounced as 'unbelievers & pagan' by 'Catalyst', themselves professing to hold 'no religious beliefs' . They have threatened us with suing in rejection of 1 Corinthians 6, yet we challenge anyone to produce documented evidence that we, (or the threat victim Jacob Prasch), have ever threatened anyone. We have meanwhile thanked Bill Randles for his apologetic removal of a blog critical of Moriel & Jacob.

Sincerely,

Moriel Board

 

First EU country to legalise non-therapeutic abortion with no clinical warrant as a mere means of birth control by means of popular Public Referendum. The vote was a landslide.

First EU country to enact pro-radical Islamic anti Israel boycott bringing the promised curse of God on itself (Genesis 12:3). The Republic of Ireland is a nation that has truly gone from bad to worse , going from my fellow New Yorker De Valera cum 'Devilera'  to the Devil himself - from Maynooth to Mecca. Ireland has failed, and for political reasons categorically refused, to criminally prosecute a single Roman Catholic Bishop for illicitly conspiring to protect pedophile sex criminal priests , "christian" Brothers & nuns, despite the Dail formally establishing that every Irish Bishop is guilty of it. Yet it makes trade with Israel's biblical heartland a criminal act.

The Irish Left complains of  a 'British occupation' of Ulster claiming that history proves the Irish are the indigenous people, yet adapts a different standard when history and archaeology  (not to mention the scriptures including the four Gospels) prove that the Jews are the indigenous people of Bethlehem, Beth El, East Jerusalem, Shilo , Jericho & The West Bank. Whatever one's politics, there is no elective  abortion, same sex marriage, or anti Semitism in Northern Ireland (except of course in Andersontown, Short Strand, or up the Falls Road).

All you need is a feigned "Mea Culpa" , a stupid joke of a papal visit, and getting your shirts starched at a Magdallen laundry  in order to sweep sex crimes against children perpetrated by Roman Catholic clergy under the rug in Ireland.  But if their own children don't matter to the Irish government , why should Jewish or Arab children matter? My lunatic Fenian distant Irish cousins murdered Catholic and Protestant children alike in the Omagh bombing. I was in Australia at the time and I vividly recall watching the news report on TV of the funeral of a little  four year old Catholic girl murdered in Omagh, and I have likewise seen Arab as well as Jewish children murdered by Islamic terrorist bombing in Israel. Not a word from Frances Black.

Upwards of 350,000 Arabs killed by other Moslem Arabs in Syria alone, Hamas & Hizbollah persecuting and murdering Arab Christians as do Iran and Saudi Arabia, yet it is Israel with the best  Christian rights, women's rights, and over all human rights record in the Middle East that is singled out by the Irish government for bogus "war crimes". If the Dail wants to see real war crimes the FF , FG, Labour, & Sinn Fein  politicians should  go to Syria or Gaza or ask about the 3.3 million Christians slaughtered in a 14 year period by Islamic militias in Sudan. Where is the Irish boycott on Saudi oil or on Iran where 98% of the Christian pastors were hung? As a Christian I thank God that there is at least one nation in The Middle East where Christians are safe - and that nation is Israel.

Vradaker the Taoiseach should go the Middle East with one of his boyfriends and experience what is decreed by Islamic Sharia law for his homosexuality. He won't be returning to Dublin. Frances Black should do the same and see what happens to  feminist women in Islamic countries. I can almost hear her screaming now while they are mercilessly flogging her. Yet these hypocrites vilify Israel for standing up to this radical Islam that is steadily being imported into Ireland under EU immigration policies. But don't be fooled  - justice is coming (Obadiah 15).

We must pray for Ireland. The judgment of God is surely coming upon the land of my maternal ancestors. The moral avalanche into placing a benediction on everything from unnatural marital unions to the genocidal murder of the unborn to the serial  protection of sex pervert clergy guilty of the most heinous of crimes enacted  inside of  convents and confessionals against defenseless children, has now reached a new low. For the pedophile sagart Jesus said it would be better to be tossed off the dock in Dun Laohaire into the Irish Sea with a millstone around his neck. For those who curse the descendants of Abraham, Issac, & Jacob whom remain beloved for the sake of their patriarchs (Romans 11: 28), God has another impracatory guarantee. According to Zechariah 2:8, an increasingly God-less Ireland has now touched the  "Apple Of God's Own Eye", and I don't mean Patsy Fagan.

  Seamus Jacobus (aka: James Jacob Prasch)

Please watch it carefully and draw your own conclusions.

As you will be able to determine for yourself, this issue is not about the Millennium or differences of opinion on secondary issues, the primary issue is rather the Truth.

Allow me first on behalf of Moriel to please preface any comment by pointing out that we did not violate Titus 3:10 by failing to issue the "once, then twice" warning commanded in that verse. In fact, as he admits we warned David Nathan of this face to face in Los Angeles in May of this year pointing out our belief that the Millennial sacrifices are memorials of The Lord's death etc. to teach the Gospel to those born during that time who will not have a developed concept of sin in a restored earth as it was prior to Adam's sin (this was in addition to a brief chat on the Marriage Supper of The Lamb). Our view is the long-established doctrinal position of conservative Evangelical Pre-Millennialism.

On another video we have, David Nathan of course asserted that those not accepting his view cannot do so because they are Gentiles, when in fact Messianic Jewish scholars from Alfred Edersheim, David Baron, Dr. Louis Goldberg, Professor Dr. Michael Rydelnik, Dr. David Hocking, and Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and a litany of others we could name hold the same precise doctrinal position in this regard as we do.

In any event, in Los Angeles David Nathan agreed to a retraction that was to be made available for the next edition of the Moriel periodical so we could lay the matter to rest.

We waited three months for what he said he would provide and he was back in South Africa for a portion of that time, but unfortunately it was never forthcoming. A second effort to remind him by email (of which we have a copy), but the deadline was missed and after 3 further months of very concerned and troubled believers contacting us from May to August we were forced to do as we did. Titus 3:10 was followed to the letter.

In the meantime, David's 'Foundation Principles' series also in the public domain which we were additionally accosted concerning came to light containing an index of what we can only consider to be errors, some of them egregious. We had no earlier notion that David held these views when he came into Moriel and we began promoting; something him for which we must accept partial responsibility, mandating a responsibility for us to correct it. At least three South African pastors have since contacted us informing us that they knew David Nathan taught serious error, (but there are others in addition). Three months is a long time and he was contacted a second time during this period. A charge of Titus 3:10 being violated is untrue.

Because we like David Nathan personally, this has been a very difficult episode. There are churches Moriel planted and others where I (Jacob Prasch) am a trustee and I have responsibilities before The Lord to these congregations to keep the Lord's Sheep away from dangerously false dogma, as do pastors who will one day give account for the welfare of His sheep to the Chief Shepherd (1 Peter 5:1-4).

A more comprehensive treatment of David Nathan's response will again appear in the rebuttal, suffice to say it is permeated with multiple demonstrable errors as shall be addressed.

This will be forwarded to David Nathan by Moriel.

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* While this is only one of the videos we have of David Nathan, it is self-explanatory. Note please that before what he presents as 'theory', David Nathan teaches at the 20 second mark that Redemption”, “Salvation by Faith", being filled with The Holy Spirit and being 'Born Again' will be "Finished". People born in the Millennium will be descendent from the survivors of the final 7 years of history (Daniel's 70th Week) and there is nothing in scripture to say these people won't need salvation or redemption and believers in the Millennium will most certainly be Spirit Filled (Just as the Apostles were after John Chapter 20 before Jesus ascended).

* David then goes on to teach that they will, instead of by redemption by Christ, obtain atonement by the blood of animals so that they can participate in "religious" rituals. This is of course impossible according to Hebrews 10:4 as the blood of these animals in Levitical sacrifice are in Greek are 'ADUNAMON" (devoid of any power; it is symbolic only). David also mis-defines the term "Atonement" (as invented by Wm. Tyndale) to be the translation of the Hebrew "Corban" instead of "Kapporah". As shall be noted in the rebuttal, in the verses in Ezekiel 44 & 45 David highlights is the infinitive "L'CAPER", not "L'HACRIV". I know David attended yeshiva in his youth and surely, he can read this for himself, so I am at a loss to explain his confusion. To sacrifice for sin and to cover sin (not cover up, but cover) because if the provision for the sin by another are two different terms entirely in Hebrew with two different meanings and no common 'shoresh' (root) linking them etymologically. What David so assertively teaches makes absolutely no linguistic sense whatsoever. Lay people may swallow it out of ignorance, but not anyone versed in the original languages.

* At the 14:55 mark David teaches, (by his own admission-speculatively) that heaven will not only be for those who are Born Again. Positively nothing in scripture however anywhere negates or reverses John 3:3.

* David's reasoning for the missing Holy Days in the Millennium is utterly mistaken. On the basis of The Book of Ezekiel, we can only be certain of Passover & Hag Matzot because The New Testament shows that Passover will have its Millennial culmination in the 'Marriage Supper of The Lamb' and of Hag Sukkot of which the Millennium is the fulfillment (Zech. 14). The others will have had their total fulfillment.
* David's "theory" that we as believers will not have access to eat of the Tree of Life in heaven is nearly as implausible as his reason for believing it. He conflates and confuses the Fruit (representing the Divine Nature in Christ; e.g. 'The Fruit of The Spirit') with the Leaves (good works). As we see in Jesus cursing the Fig Tree (in Judaism, both ancient & modern, the Fig Tree represents the Atz Hayim or Tree of Life). Jesus said that we most assuredly will eat of the Tree of Life in Heaven Revelation 22:14. Those who do not are the dogs, sorcerers, murderers, and idolaters outside of the city.

* David's teaching on this video that "no one will be Born Again after the rapture" is directly contradictory to Revelation 14:6. The Gospel being preached via angelic agency from midheaven at that time of God's wrath being released concurrent with the rapture is defined in that text as a Gospel that is 'Eternal' (eugalion aonion eugalesai). The Gospel of repentance, faith, and salvation will be preached and it is an 'eternal' message of salvation. Eternity is an all-encompassing term in both Greek and English and includes the Millennium. David Nathan's forceful assertions in this regard and the teaching of the plain meaning of text are mutually exclusive. The circumstances in which it is preached in a post grace environment will be very different, but the message itself will not be. David Nathan appears confused as to dispensations and their meaning. Not until the death & resurrection of Jesus and Pentecost did the season of Grace formally arrive. The Law was still in effect concurrent with the ministry of Jesus, yet He preached the Gospel announcing a coming age of grace before the age arrived (Matthew 4:23). The Law and its wrath moreover was concurrent with the preaching of the Gospel until climaxing in 70 AD/ CE. Isaiah 61: 1-2 (partially cited by Jesus in Luke 4 & Matt. 4) moreover, makes it clear that the proclaiming of the Gospel ('Besora' in Hebrew; 'Evangelion' in Septuagint & New Testament) encompasses both the Grace period and the time of divine vengeance. David's teaching that the Gospel message entailing Second Birth can only exist in an era of Grace is a not only a concept alien to scripture, but at odds with it.

David's teaching on this video that no one will be Born Again after the rapture is directly and mutually exclusively at odds that the Gospel preached by angelic agency from the air at that point will be "eternal'; there will be Salvation by faith etc.- howbeit in circumstances of unprecedented duress very different from the present time.

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Neither I or Moriel, derives any pleasure from any of this, however we cannot allow the public impression that we agree with such horrible false teaching or allow believers in churches where we bear responsibility to be fed this brand of poison.

WATCH and HEAR DAVID NATHAN TEACH THESE THINGS BY CLICKING HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwjqvkLWfpM

 In 1973, aged 16 I answered an altar call by an American missionary preaching in my hometown. I really experienced the Lord Jesus working in my young life. being a Presbyterian at that time I was soon frustrated by the deadness of the church and found myself drawn to a group of Christian "hippies" from the Jesus movement and went about handing out tracts and singing from campers equipped with amplifiers and p.a. systems. I also visited many pentecostal tent meetings but quickly learned that white doves flying around the tents were the acts of men and not holy spirit manifestations. an older couple took a fancy to me and decided to lay hands on me to receive the gift of tongues. they pressed down upon my head so hard that I realised if I did not come up with something fast, I was going to pass through the pearly gates by virtue of a broken neck. I promptly recited my Latin amo,amas… which caused them to release my head and exhorted me to go home and practice my new gift.

By the time I left high school, I was little more than a sceptic and very disillusioned by all things Christian. I joined the South African police force instead of going to the army and after basic training found myself fighting in a bush war which few of us really understood other than it was supposedly preventing communism from taking over Namibia and eventually South Africa. after my second stint in the operational area, I was transferred to the narcotics section where I mostly did under-cover drug gang infiltrations and eventually transferred to the criminal bureau where I did C.S.I for about 26 years. in all of these years, I lived as a sinner yet the consciousness that I was lost never left me.  

in 1996 I was reading a book, "the final battle" by Hal Lindsey and clearly experienced a voice saying to me, "this is the last time!". I immediately knew that God was speaking to me but soon afterwards fell back to my former ways yet the experience haunted me. driven by a need to silence this inner voice I started seriously studying the meaning of life and began a quest to disprove the bible and Christianity. I read Stephen Hawking and other scientist but found they had little to nothing to offer. their postulations were absurd and empty. Egyptology and Hinduism was obviously such rubbish that I found it incredulous that people actually believed in those things. then I found the Apocrypha and my curiosity as to why they were excluded from the canon of scripture won me over to study them. these quaint writings intrigued me until I read the book of Nicodemus, about the trial of Jesus and I was deeply moved by the unfairness and lack of jurisprudence throughout this ordeal. as an expert state witness myself, I could appreciate the corruption of the Sanhedrin in framing Jesus and it actually caused me to weep for the first time in many years. I started reading the bible again and on 1 September 1998 my wife and I had a powerful encounter with the Lord Jesus in our home and we were born again.

A few weeks later a friend of mine gave me a VHS cassette and asked me to "see" what I could make of it. it was by one James Jacob Prasch and it turned our lives upside down and challenged us to pursue truth and not follow men. this I have done and later I met Jacob in person and became his friend and co-worker in the kingdom.

I am honoured to serve the Lord Jesus and to be entrusted with the Moriel South Africa administration.

 

 

We cannot however speak for David personally, and you will need to address any doctrinal questions to him and to 'Bread of Life' ministries. Attached below are the teaching materials by David Nathan that have been at issue. While we are agreement with some of it, certain aspects are incompatible with Moriel's understanding of scripture, statement of faith, and charter.

It is better if we decline further comment and allow David to speak for himself should you see fit to contact him with reference to his own theological positions. However, by way of clarification our positions in terms of doctrinal theology are incongruous with certain of David's positions as published in his Foundation Principles material attached below.

Without hostility or personal attack, we cannot endorse a teaching that urges believers to stand on a personal word from The Lord which he, like many others, defines as a Rhema (although Greek scholars dispute these definitions) in the same way they would stand on scripture, defined as Logos. Neither can we, (on the basis of Exodus chapter 30 and the absence of exegetical warrant in the New Testament) sanction David's understanding of "laying on of hands", although we do agree with the practice itself as mentioned in the Epistle to Timothy, and we do hold to Spirit Baptism as it is explained on the Moriel recorded teaching on 'Baptism'.

Another problematic issue has been David's view of atonement for sin in the Millennial reign of Christ being by Levitical sacrifice (which will be practiced at that time as a typological 'pedeon' to teach the Gospel to those born during that period), instead of by the blood of Christ. We expected David to retract this statement, which he had agree to do, (in accordance with the Epistle to The Hebrews that animal sacrifices can never atone for sin), but the retraction has not been forthcoming. David may and undoubtedly will respond to these matters for himself, however Moriel is simply going by what David published and recorded - that multiple believers on Facebook etc. have as a result, wrongly interpreted to be the doctrinal beliefs of Moriel. This compelled Moriel to clarify that such is not the case.

Again, we all stand united in our personal fondness of David and we freely acknowledge that many have been blessed by other aspects of his teaching ministry with which we are in agreement. We additionally once more thank David his administration work for Moriel in South Africa. It is Moriel hope that he will retract these doctrines which we only hold as erroneous.

Sincerely in Jesus,

Moriel Board

Update (Sept 5th, 2018). David responded to us.  Jacob Prasch has responded back  - please see here

Another activity for some batch of our children, we took them to a Christian fellowship, venue at Fiesta Community Homes, Subic Zambales. We let the children swim on swimming pool to refresh them from summer heat, eat lunch together as like at a picnic and hearing God's word delivered by Pastor Edwin. A Young Peoples Fellowship hosted by the church at San Felipe Zambales. Some of our young children attended on the fellowship and participated on the program activities.

Moriel Ministries brought again a blessings for the children through Moriel Give a Gifts school supplies and school uniforms. The parents were thankful and the children were happy and ready excited to go to school on June 4. The gifts encourages the children not only in secular school but also in Sunday School.

The children are familiar on Moriel Give a Gifts because they received it on a regular basis, like this coming rainy season they are expecting Moriel gifts- umbrellas and raincoats. We're teaching the children that all the blessings we received belongs to God, to Jesus Christ our Lord and from your abundant heart the blessings flows and we be always thankful deep in heart. Thank you very much for all the blessings, may God continue to bless you.

Please let we know the update of our concern on the residential lot.

Thank you.

Sincerely,in Christ

Ptr. Paul

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Bookings for the Moriel Hayes Conference will only be taken from April through to October.

Bookings for Moriel Northern Conference will only be taken from December to February.

This is so bookings do not overlap and gives us time to Visit Israel in our Ministry Work with Lechlcha.

All bookings for both Conferences are now via Peter & Beryl Hunter. lifeline.wigan2@btinternet.com Mobile- 07894862590

Mana and Daeng’s Baptism

Mana and Daeng have been nominal believers for several years now, but just in the last year have really gotten serious about their walk with the Lord.  Khae has been teaching her and her daughter twice a week, and I’ve been teaching Mana and another man twice a week.   It is a joy to see them walking with the Lord and leading their children to know the Lord also.

Pat’s Decision and Baptism

Pat is the young lady who recently had a baby.  As a young mother who was not planning to become a mother, she has really taken good responsibility for her daughter and not just left her at the government orphanage or worse.  With this new responsibility she also seems to be thinking more clearly about her life and about her relationship with God.  Pat has been coming to learn the Bible with us for several years now, but for a while was tempted away by the video game shop and preferring her cell phone to coming and studying the Bible and English.  Khae has also started going to her house to teach her twice a week.  Last month Khae asked her directly what she believes.  Her answer was non-committal.  But, then a few days later she saw a ghost and then prayed to Jesus for protection and felt peace.  After that time she became much more interested in the Bible and even asked to be baptized.  That was another blessed day.  Praise be to God for this!

Woman on the Beast

While here, David also asked me about an idol that is seen some places here.  I put together a short article about that, attached here.

May God lead each of you and bless you in the New Year for His glory.

Thanks be to God for His love and reconciliation through Jesus!

Peace in Christ,

Scott, Khae, and Micahberekiah.

 

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RC Sproul was a genuine Calvinist in the Covenant theology sense that John Calvin was, in effect equating Baptism with circumcision and sprinkling infants etc. He was not a mere adherent to the 'TULIP' of The Remonstrance of Dort. He was additionally a staunch cessationist. These, of course, are doctrinal positions we at Moriel do not share, but still his dogma was by no means all erroneous and RC Sproul could indeed be a voice for scriptural orthodoxy in an age of compromise and apostasy.

While we did not hold a very positive view of RC Sproul doctrinally or theologically overall, he was to his credit and by God's grace not ecumenical and we appreciated his strong positions on intelligent design, pro-life opposition to non-therapeutic abortion, and above all we must pay tribute to his firm position on the inerrancy of scripture as God's infallible and inspired Word in opposition to the satanically inspired quagmire of higher critical theological liberalism that he very correctly and often nobly challenged.

We must not be hypocritical in eulogizing him; RC Sproul admittedly was not a great champion of truth to us or anything like it - his pneumatology was flawed and infant baptism is fundamentally unscriptural. Yet Dr Sproul certainly was not devoid of his areas of personal virtue. In addition to his negative points of doctrine theologically, as a conservative Evangelical scholar he most definitely also exhibited better points in the sphere of apologetics in particularly We do believe him to have been a brother in Christ, (how be it one with whom we often disagreed as well as at other times found ourselves agreeing with). Our prayers are with his family at this time.

When we meet Jesus face to face, Jesus will surely straighten out all of our imperfect doctrines.

(JJ Prasch/ Moriel)

I hope Sizer at least paid his shameless patsy Jews For Jesus stooges a generous honorarium for their PR services when they ignored the official position they once published by Moishe Rosen in their newsletter calling 'anti Zionism the mere current expression of anti Semitism' and pandered to Stephen Sizer to the public assassination of their testimony for Yeshua to the Jewish community. Politicians are, by definition, hypocrites. So are Richard Harvey, Susan Perlman, and Jews For Jesus. The Jewish community, the rabbinic establishment, and Jewish community media outlets all propagate the idea that Jewish believers in Jesus as Messiah have joined the ranks of historical "Christian" Jew hatred and anti Semitism as a tactic to discourage Jewish consideration of the claims of Jesus. By virtue of their sickening actions Jews for Jesus are out to prove them right

'Jews for Jesus' are no longer "for Jesus".  Jews for Jesus are for themselves. They are plainly and primarily about theocratic politics and fundraising - not about the cause of the Gospel to lost Jewish souls because they have categorically proven themselves to be quite willing to sacrifice their testimony to the Jewish people for the sake of such church politics and fund raising. I hope the theocratic socializing and honorariums are worth it. Having assassinated their own witness for Yeshua to the Jewish community they are no longer witnesses to the Jews but demonstrable, and some would say, paid suckers for Stephen Sizer.

Citing a recent article concerning the correspondence to a true Christian Zionist who both stands with Israel and with the cause of Israel's salvation; a brother of the kind castigated by Sizer and Jeremy Corbyn. Cast your minds back a few years, and you’ll remember that the Church of England decided to investigate Stephen Sizer, after he had:

• Commended a call for the Jews to “get the Hell out of Palestine“
• Suggestedthat the Jews were behind 9/11
• Cited Holocaust denier Dale Crowley
• CitedHolocaust denier Michael Hoffman
• Cited9/11 “truther” Michael Collins defending Holocaust denier Dale Crowley
• Travelled to Iran as a guestof the Iranian regime, having been invited by the same man who previously invited Robert Faurisson on an expenses-paid tour
• Spoke at an IHRC conference aiming towards “a new liberation theology on Palestine” – alongside Rima Fakhry of Hezbollah and terror advocate Achmad Cassiem
• Shared a platformwith Holocaust denier Fred Tobin
• Supported the IHH flotilla
• Proposed a boycott of Greeceafter they blocked another Gaza flotilla
• Hosted a speakerat his church who thinks suicide bombers are martyrs
• Agreed that Hamas had every rightto “hit back” against the West
• Linkedto antisemitic website The Ugly Truth
• Joined with with Sheikh Nabil Kaouk, commander of Hezbollah’s armed forces in Southern Lebanon
• Joined with with the Blood Libel Sheikh, Raed Salah, whom Jeremy Corbyn brought into Parliament
• Joined  with the granddaughter of Ayatollah Khomeini, Zahra Mostafavi
• Toured Malaysiaspeaking about Palestine , following an invite from a Holocaust denier
• Posted a linkto Veterans Today, which dismisses the Holocaust as an “Israeli psy-ops operation”, denies the gas chambers, defends Hitler, sneers at “the Jewish crooks on Wall Street”, publishes pieces by Gilad Atzmon, and says of the Jews, “they should wholly be burnt in ovens”.
• Posted a blog link to the Palestine Telegraph, which supported the writingsof ex-KKK leader David Duke.

Here was Corbyn’s spirited defense of Stephen Sizer, in a letter to Sizer’s bishop back in 2012

Dear Right Reverend Christopher Hill

I am sorry to hear that problems have arisen, for Reverend Stephen Sizer, at least in part due to a technical oversight in terms of computer links, though I understand that the problem has now been rectified. I hope it was no more complicated than that.

Reverend Stephen Sizer seems to have come under attack by certain individuals intent on discrediting the excellent work that Stephen does in highlighting the injustices of the Palestinian Israeli situation, in particular by his very thorough analysis of “Christian Zionism”. Might I suggest that such criticism is part of a wider pattern of demonising those who dare to stand up and speak out against Zionism, a philosophy that precludes the existence of the state of Palestine?

Your own expertise, wisdom and experience will, I am sure, allow you to appreciate just how much distance exists between anti Semitism, anti Zionism, and anti Israeli government actions for that matter. Overzealous critics find it convenient to conflate them all. Active and well informed individuals such as Reverend Stephen Sizer, withstand a considerable amount of inappropriate criticism. Indeed many MPs and Peers are also attacked.

The internet is a complicated piece of technology and with the best will in the world, imperfect links are made and one would have to spend 8 hours a day “surfing” the net just to be 100% certain one’s views to not become contaminated in any way at all. Even then, connections can inadvertently be made.

I do hope you’ll take the above into consideration when meeting with Reverend Stephen Sizer today, for I do admire the excellent work that he does and personally, I would give no credence at all to any claims that he is anti-Semitic.

With kind regards

Jeremy Corbyn MP
Islington North

 

Draw your own conclusions.

 

A statement by the Bishop of Guildford, Andrew Watson, re: Stephen Sizer
Date: 10 March 2017
A statement by the Bishop of Guildford, Andrew Watson.  

“I have become aware that Dr Stephen Sizer has again contravened the agreement he made in February 2015 just five weeks before his planned retirement on Easter Sunday, 16 April 2017. Needless to say I am very disappointed by Dr Sizer’s actions.

“Dr Sizer admits that material shared on his Facebook page in the past two weeks has breached our agreement, and so I have required him to cease all preaching, teaching and leading of services with immediate effect. He will also desist from all use of social media until his retirement takes effect.

“To allow the parish of Virginia Water to say a proper goodbye, I have conceded that Dr Sizer leads ministry over the Easter weekend.”

There are about 1.4 million Arabs in Israel, and they should be thanking God for the privilege they have. ‚   Here are some of the reasons:

• In Israel they can live without fear, under rule of law (not sharia law!).
• They can get justice.
• They can find jobs and make a living.
• They can and do get plenty of free medical treatment.
• Their children can go to school, college and university.
• Adults who never had the chance can learn to read and write, including the women!
• They can buy property and build homes.
• They get social security benefits.
• They can choose NOT to go to a mosque without being hunted down by religious police.
• The women can drive cars without being dragged out and beaten.
• The women can wear sunglasses to protect their eyes (unlike in some Arab nations).
• Even the girls can enter the professions.
• The women can dress as they choose, and even allow people to see their faces! ‚   ‚   Wow, whatever next?
• The women can walk down the street without a male relative.
• Arabs can ‚   vote in truly free and un-corrupt elections.
• They can even stand for office and be elected! ‚   Some Arabs have been elected to the highest body in the land, the Knesset.
• And they can voice their true opinions. ‚   Try that in an Arab country if you disagree with the ruling elite.
• They can change their religion without being beheaded, as they are in Islamic towns and cities on Fridays.
• They can keep their hands and feet, and not have them amputated by sharia courts (unlike the young girl who ran up to us in Morocco crying and holding out the stumps of her wrists).

In fact, the only place Islamics find real ‚  freedom is outside of their own Islamic countries, which is why they flood into the West.

I say all this to show that I am well informed in Middle Eastern affairs and that, for that reason, I am shocked and disheartened by the EUSA motion and vote. I am shocked for a simple reason: there is not, and has never been, a system of apartheid in Israel. That is not my opinion, that is fact that can be tested against reality by any Edinburgh student, should he or she choose to visit Israel to see for themselves.

Let me spell this out, since I have the impression that those members of EUSA who voted for this motion are absolutely clueless in matters concerning Israel, and that they are, in all likelihood, the victims of extremely biased propaganda coming from the anti-Israel lobby.

Being anti-Israel is not in itself objectionable. But I'm not talking about ordinary criticism of Israel. I'm speaking of a hatred that permits itself no boundaries in the lies and myths it pours out. Thus, Israel is repeatedly referred to as a 'Nazi' state. In what sense is this true, even as a metaphor? Where are the Israeli concentration camps? The einzatsgruppen? The SS? The N ƒ ¼remberg Laws? The Final Solution?

None of these things nor anything remotely resembling them exists in Israel, precisely because the Jews, more than anyone on earth, understand what Nazism stood for. It is claimed that there has been an Israeli Holocaust in Gaza (or elsewhere). Where? When? No honest historian would treat that claim with anything but the contempt it deserves. But calling Jews Nazis, and saying they have committed a Holocaust is as basic a way to subvert historical fact as anything I can think of.

Likewise apartheid. For apartheid to exist, there would have to be a situation that closely resembled things in South Africa under the apartheid regime.

Unfortunately for those who believe this, a weekend in any part of Israel would be enough to show how ridiculous the claim is. That a body of university students actually fell for this and votedon it is a sad comment on the state of modern education. The most obvious focus for apartheid would be the country's 20% Arab population.

Under Israeli law, Arab Israelis have exactly the same rights as Jews or anyone else; Muslims have the same rights as Jews or Christians; Baha'is, severely persecuted in Iran, flourish in Israel, where they have their world centre; Ahmadi Muslims, severely persecuted in Pakistan and elsewhere, are kept safe by Israel; the holy places of all religions are protected under a specific Israeli law. Arabs form 20% of the university population (an exact echo of their percentage in the general population). In Iran, the Baha'is (the largest religious minority) are forbidden to study in any university or to run their own universities: why aren't your members boycotting Iran?

Arabs in Israel can go anywhere they want, unlike blacks in apartheid South Africa. They use public transport, they eat in restaurants, they go to swimming pools, they use libraries, they go to cinemas alongside Jews - something no blacks could do in South Africa. Israeli hospitals not only treat Jews and Arabs, they also treat Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank. On the same wards, in the same operating theatres.

In Israel, women have the same rights as men: there is no gender apartheid. Gay men and women face no restrictions, and Palestinian gays often escape into Israel, knowing they may be killed at home. It seems bizarre to me that LGBT groups call for a boycott of Israel and say nothing about countries like Iran, where gay men are hanged or stoned to death. That illustrates a mindset that beggars belief. Intelligent students thinking it's better to be silent about regimes that kill gay people, but good to condemn the only country in the Middle East that rescues and protects gay people. Is that supposed to be a sick joke?

University is supposed to be about learning to use your brain, to think rationally, to examine evidence, to reach conclusions based on solid evidence, to compare sources, to weigh up one view against one or more others. If the best Edinburgh can now produce are students who have no idea how to do any of these things, then the future is bleak.

I do not object to well documented criticism of Israel. I do object when supposedly intelligent people single the Jewish state out above states that are horrific in their treatment of their populations. We are going through the biggest upheaval in the Middle East since the 7th and 8th centuries, and it's clear that Arabs and Iranians are rebelling against terrifying regimesthat fight back by killing their own citizens. Israeli citizens, Jews and Arabs alike, do not rebel (though they are free to protest). Yet Edinburgh students mount no demonstrations and call for no boycotts against Libya, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Iran. They prefer to make false accusations against one of the world's freest countries, the only country in the Middle East that has taken in Darfur refugees, the only country in the Middle East that gives refuge to gay men and women, the only country in the Middle East that protects the Baha'is.... Need I go on? The imbalance is perceptible, and it sheds no credit on anyone who voted for this boycott.

I ask you to show some common sense. Get information from the Israeli embassy. As for some speakers. Listen to more than one side. Do not make your minds up until you have given a fair hearing to both parties.You have a duty to your students, and that is to protect them from one-sided argument. They are not at university to be propagandized. And they are certainly not there to be tricked into anti-Semitism by punishing one country among all the countries of the world, which happens to be the only Jewish state. If there had been a single Jewish state in the 1930s (which, sadly, there was not), don't you think Adolf Hitler would have decided to boycott it? Of course he would, and he would not have stopped the family: re. Your generation has a duty to ensure that the perennial racism of anti-Semitism never sets down roots among you.

Today, however, there are clear signs that it has done so and is putting down more. You have a chance to avert a very great evil, simply by using reason and a sense of fair play. Please tell me that this makes sense to me. I have given you some of the evidence. It's up to you to find out more.

Yours sincerely,

Dr. Denis MacEoin

Yes God freed them in 1948, because that is God's land and no one else's.

And He will soon return to free whoever is still remaining at His second coming.

Until then my heart grieves for all of Israel to recgconize their Messiah that was hung on a tree for us all.

Y'shu, Jesus, Our Lord and our God.

Let's keep praying for Israel as never before.....

Jesus open the eyes of your people to recognize you before the destruction begins.

I know you will when you return, but have mercy and save many before that happens Lord.

Thank you Jesus. Amen

Grace and peace to you who are Christ Jesus

The document misreported an interview with one of the participants, English social worker Miranda Pinch, claiming that she had been told by the head teacher of a school in Hebron that some children had been sexually abused.

In a statement which apologises "unreservedly" for the mistake, the charity said:

"The children had in fact been subjected to verbal sexual harassment, which is clearly different, from both settlers and Israeli soldiers.

"This was an unwitting mistake on Christian Aid’s part and we apologise for the misrepresentation of what had taken place.

"Christian Aid has interviewed the head teacher, who has confirmed that teenage girls had suffered verbal sexual harassment while passing through a nearby army checkpoint."

The Charity Commission said concerns have been raised with it about the mistake and that it was "currently assessing what regulatory concern there may be for the Commission".

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Monday, March 29th 2010

The grotesquely misnamed United Nations Human Rights Council has topped its own high standard of absurd lies about Israel - this time resurrecting the medieval blood libel against Jews with a medical twist.

The council has posted on its Web site a venomous letter from an anti-Israel organization called EAFORD, the International Organization for the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, which is just as grotesquely misnamed as the council itself.

EAFORD, a nonprofit founded in Libya and granted UN accreditation in 1981, has one consuming obsession: to brand Israel a criminal state.

EAFORD's statement, with the council's imprimatur, accuses Israel of plucking organs of "dead, kidnapped and killed Palestinians" in a conspiracy involving "Israeli physicians, medical centers, rabbis and the Israeli Army."

Such is the nature of the Human Rights Council. It legitimizes outrageous, inflammatory lies about Israel while ordering Hillel Neuer of UN Watch to refrain from using the word "regime" when talking about Iran. It ceaseslessly attacks the only democracy in the Middle East while turning a blind eye to genocide, female genital mutilation and human trafficking elsewhere.

Passover, the Jewish festival of freedom, begins at sundown tonight. This would be the perfect time for the Obama administration, which has suffered from the delusion that the council can be reformed, to call it out for the hatemongering farce that it is.

Source https://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/03/29/2010-03-29_propagating_hate.html

The UN Watch letter that exposed the blood libel follows below.

March 24, 2010

Dear Mr. President,
Dear Madam High Commissioner,

As a human rights NGO dedicated to combating racism, UN Watch is alarmed to discover that the UN Human Rights Council, together with the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, has, however unwittingly, helped to propagate an anti-Semitic blood libel by publishing it as an official United Nations document (A/HRC/13/NGO/23), which is now being distributed to country delegates"”under the same Agenda Item in which they will soon vote on the Goldstone Report.

We call upon you to immediately cease circulating this racist, hateful and inflammatory text to the ambassadors and other delegates of the Human Rights Council; to gather up and destroy all existing copies; and to remove it from the Human Rights Council website.

The document in question is A/HRC/13/NGO/23, entitled "Israeli Illegal Trafficking in Organs of Dead and Kidnapped Palestinian Victims." It was submitted by the "International Organization for the Elimination of all Forms of Racial Discrimination," also known as EAFORD. As shown on its website (www.eaford.org), the raison d’etre of this UN-accredited organization is to accuse Israel of being a racist state. (The website also links to a video on U.S. action in Iraq, which it describes as a "Holocaust.")

The statement begins by accusing Israel of "ethnic cleansing and massacres," creating the "largest open-air prison in the world," perpetrating "economic genocide," and having "let loose hordes of marauding gangs of Israeli illegal settlers" in order to "launch pogroms against Palestinians."

It then proceeds to the principal charge: "Now it is the turn of the dead, kidnapped and killed Palestinians. Their human organs, as reported in the press, can be a source of immense wealth through illegal trafficking in the world market. Israeli physicians, medical centers, rabbis and the Israeli army may be involved, according to reports published in the Swedish press and criminal investigations in the United States."

It goes on: "After Israeli physicians remove organs they think marketable, the soldiers bury the bodies in graves that carry only numbers and no names, or place them in sealed caskets and deliver them under curfew conditions to the families and supervise the digging of the graves and burial."

Finally, the statement concludes by calling on "physicians, medical centers and associations everywhere to condemn and boycott Israeli physicians and medical centers."

Your Excellencies, the accusation that the Jewish state and its doctors are engaged in a racist campaign to steal Palestinian organs has no basis in fact or reality, and is nothing less than the repackaging of the medieval blood libel that was used over centuries to incite anti-Semitic hatred, violence and pogroms against Jews.

The United Nations cannot allow itself to aid or abet such blatant incitement to racism. Given that the Office of the High Commissioner carefully screens all submissions before deciding to publish them"”indeed, our own submissions to this session were edited to remove certain words referring to regimes such as Iran and Libya"”we are deeply disappointed that this hateful text was accepted for publication as an official UN document, and that it is now being distributed as such within the Human Rights Council chamber.

We urge you to take immediate action in accordance with the principles of human rights, equality and anti-racism upon which the United Nations was founded.

Respectfully,

Hillel C. Neuer
Executive Director
UN Watch
Geneva, Switzerland

The PA official's claim follows a meeting in Jordan last week between PA President Mahmoud Abbas and George Mitchell, Obama's envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. At a press conference immediately following the meeting, Abbas declared the Palestinian "right" to "resistance" against Israel.

The U.S. has come down hard on a decision by the Jerusalem municipality to approve 1,600 new homes in Ramat Shlomo, an already-existing Jewish community in eastern Jerusalem. The decision was made public during Vice President Joe Biden's visit to the region earlier this month.

The Palestinians claim eastern Jerusalem as their future capital, while Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made clear he does not intend to give up the Jewish sections of the city.

Netanyahu has stated that he had not been aware of the decision to build in Ramat Shlomo and that the announcement was not timed to coincide with Biden's visit.

Still, Obama senior adviser David Axelrod called the Ramat Shlomo announcement an "insult." Other administration officials called the Jewish neighborhood expansion an impediment to Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

Yesterday, Netanyahu's office made public a U.S. demand for a four-month freeze of Jewish construction in Jewish neighborhoods of eastern Jerusalem. In exchange for the freeze, the U.S. said it would coax Abbas to hold direct negotiations with Netanyahu regarding the establishment of a Palestinian state.

The Palestinians have been engaged in riots and street violence targeting Jews in Jerusalem.

Two weeks ago, Israel rededicated an ancient synagogue in the main Jewish quarter of the Old City. The structure had been badly damaged by Jordanian forces that overran the Jewish Quarter in the 1948 Middle East war.

The Hurva synagogue is hundreds of feet from the Western Wall and is in no way connected to the Temple Mount. Israel did not conduct heavy construction on the synagogue, a structure that had been in the Jewish quarter since the second century.

Still, the PA and Hamas claimed Israel's rededication ceremony was a threat to the al-Aqsa Mosque. Hamas called for a "day of rage," prompting Palestinians throughout eastern Jerusalem to hurl stones at police. There were also reports of rocks and Molotov cocktails aimed at Israeli buses.

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The frosty Obama/Netanyahu personal relations is a result of a crisis which was manufactured by Barack Obama as a way to isolate the Jewish State and serve it up on a silver platter to his allies in the Muslim world. Yes I know the President keeps talking about the "shared interests" and "friendship" but this President is an expert in saying one thing and doing another.

The official story, the one you hear in the press, is the U.S. wants a freeze on new housing units in East Jerusalem and the West Bank as a way to bring Palestinians back to the bargaining table for renewed peace talks. The truth is that these housing developments started decades before Bibi took over as PM in 2009 and negotiations were taking place all during that period.

Obama is pressuring Israel despite the fact that last year Mahmoud Abbas declared in the Washington Post that he would never recognize Israel as a Jewish state, and that he would not lift a finger to peacemaking. Abbas basically said that Bibi would capitulate or he would wait until a Bibi/Obama split brings down the Netanyahu government.

Obama is putting the entire burden on Israel and the "settlements". No reciprocal demand is made of the Palestinians.

In his demands Obama has refused to recognize existing agreements between the two countries saying that Israel would ‚   be permitted to expand existing communities. In fact the Obama administration refused to admit they ever existed. ‚   That lie was refuted by was disputed by former Asst. Secretary of State Elliot Abrams who negotiated that agreement with Israel:

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The announcement that Israel intends to build a housing complex in a neighbourhood that is part of East Jerusalem.

The result: Vice President Biden was said to be greatly embarrassed by this announcement as he had just arrived in Israel in an attempt to encourage both Israel and the Palestinians to re-enter peace negotiations.

Now if this was a planned insult to Biden and the USA one could understand it.

If it was a deliberate attempt to throw a rock under the peace process, again we could see and understand America's ire and the subsequent Palestinian riots that followed.

However, neither is true.

It was an ill-timed announcement by a lesser official in Netanyahu's government. That is for sure.

BUT the announcement should not have caused such an earthquake response from America and the PA.

Why?

Because everyone; the Americans and the Palestinians, know full well that such building endevours have been going on in this same neighbourhood for the last 4 decades!

AND even more amazing; they all know that under any and every past and present peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians it has been agreed that this area would always be a part of Israel in any future two state solution!!

So they would still be building in Israel not a future Palestinian state! Everyone agrees.

So why the vitriolic response from the USA and the Palestinians?

I believe this has shown the Obama administration's true colours and their anti-Israel policies and pro-Palestinian / Arab kow-towing.

Today 75% of Congress called on Secretary of State Clinton and Obama to "cool it" regarding Israel and to make a behind closed doors peace with Netanyahu.

Maybe they will, maybe they will not. But if one takes a look at the list of regular visitors to the White House in recent months you will see the administration is taking a very disturbing anti-American, anti-Israel route. Read the list here.

And as such placing itself on a collision course with the God of Israel.

Not because Israel is always right. But because as in most instances, and especially in this recent case, Israel has once more been attacked without cause.

This is nothing other than the handywork of Satan himself who is seeking the destruction of the Jewish state. And in attempting to fulfill his diabolical plans he uses fallen mankind.

This is the land to which in future days the Messiah Yeshua Himself will return to defend his people when as the prophet Zechariah says "All nations shall come against Jerusalem." (Zechariah 14:1-5).

The Palestinians for their part, in seeing the American response and changing attitude toward Israel, have smelt blood and believe the new administration is openly against the Jewish state and its demise is near. So they join in the hunt and begin to riot.

They ponder why the Americans are dragging their feet in allowing any solid concrete action against Iran and her nuclear plans against Israel.

Could the USA think-tank be considering the possibility of Iran destroying Israel then America, holding its hands up in mock horror deals with Iran to stop it becoming a danger to the USA's Arab (read "oil producing") friends?

Thus America becomes the saviour of the Middle East and prevents a possible World War and at the same time, by proxy, rids the world of the Israel problem.

All under a President who refuses to show his original birth certificate, who bows to the King of Saudi Arabia; something no Western leader has ever, ever done, and has questionable guests at the White House many of whom have been anti-USA in the past. Read the list here

Speculation, I know, and I hope I am wrong. But certainly the Bible tells us plainly that when Antichrist appears the world will turn against Israel.

I am NOT saying Obama IS the Antichrist. But he could be preparing the world for the Antichrist's anti-Israel, anti-christian time of the Great Tribulation.

It appears those days may not be too distant.

May Messiah bless you.

03/17/2010 17:42
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Palestinian Authority shuts down the only Christian TV broadcaster in the Territories
After 14 years on the air, the government shuts down the only Palestinian Christian TV station. Located about 350 metres from Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, the station broadcast shows with social, religious, economic and cultural content. Its general manager tells AsiaNews the order is unfair, stressing the high regard in which viewers held the station.

Bethlehem (AsiaNews) "“ The Palestinian National Authority has shut down Al-Mahed "Nativity" TV for operating without a licence. Samir Qumsieh, owner and general manager of the Christian broadcaster, slammed the decision. After 14 years on the air and despite a long list of "thank you letters" by grateful viewers, Palestinian police raided the broadcaster’s offices yesterday at 2 pm. Waving an order by the Interior Ministry, they put the station off the air. Contacted by AsiaNews, Mr Qumsieh said he was baffled by the order, which for him was "unjustified".

Located on high ground at about 350 metres from the Church of Nativity, in Bethlehem, Al-Mahed "Nativity" TV was for years the "only Christian voice" among Palestinian media.

It broadcast programmes in all sorts of domains, from education to the environment, from politics to local culture and society, as well as programmes with a religious content: masses, prayers and the most important celebrations on the liturgical calendar. Its audience was not limited to Christians but included Muslims as well.

According to unconfirmed reports that reached AsiaNews, the closure appears to be financially motivated. Palestinian authorities demanded money, a "licence" that was not paid.

In a letter addressed to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, Mr Qumsieh slammed the unjustified closure of the Christian TV station because of the "lack of a licence".

He said that 14 years of broadcasting earned the station the gratitude of viewers as demonstrated by the many thank you letters and e-mails, worthy of a "Guinness world record".

In his letter to the authorities, he said that he "would not beg" to have the station re-opened. The "ingratitude" shown to him is "unacceptable by any religion, logic or conscience".

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No, none of those incidents were described as insults. Nothing that Muslim countries did to mock, humiliate and murder Americans were even noticed at all. None of them produced furious condemnations from the White House or two hours of Hillary Clinton screeching on the phone at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. So what did Israel do that was so awful, so horrible and terrible? It built houses. Yes, civilian houses. Not army bases or nuclear missiles or walls. Houses.

Israel approved a construction project to build housing for its own people, in its own capitol city, Jerusalem. Some of the housing will be built in the Shimon HaTzadik neighborhood, situated around the grave of Shimon the Righteous, a Jewish religious figure famed for rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. A neighborhood where Jews have lived for over a century. As well as Ramat Shlomo, a thriving neighborhood with thousands of Jewish families living in it.

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They say that the aim of this conference is to:

...equip the global church to understand Scripture as it relates to the Palestinian context, and to discuss the theological importance of Peace and Justice in an Evangelical context.

Our hope is to provide a forum for evangelicals who take the Bible seriously to prayerfully seek a well-informed awareness of issues of peace, justice and reconciliation which are contextually sensitive as well profound to scriptural scholarship.

-www.christatthecheckpoint.com

The speakers at this conference are listed here:
https://www.christatthecheckpoint.com/speakers.html

Today's keynote speakers may seem like a particularly surprising combo, but really this is no surprise. They are listed as Lynne Hybels and Tony Campolo.

Lynne Hybels, of course, is the wife of Bill Hybels of Willow Creek church and Willow Creek Association (which most seeker friendly churches today are members of). Besides partnering with the Tutus and the Warrens in social justice and world peace endeavours, Mr. Hybels has had the anti-semetic Jimmy Carter in to speak, as well as Tony Blair and Bono (Mr. COEXIST), etc. You may recall that Mr. Hybels is also a signatory of"¦

This "Common Word Between You and Us", complete with its own website and heavy hitting endorsements from the misguided likes of Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Leith Anderson, and Jim Wallis of the religious left, has proven to be more of a sophisticated anti-Israel propaganda tool than legitimate Inter-Faith dialogue.

-'A Common Word' -- Inter-Faith Dialogue or Propaganda Tool?
[www.christiannewswire.com]

Mrs. Hybels has also signed something:

"Something called the Christians Support Bold Action for Holy Land Peace campaign was launched; a letter signed by 50 leaders included Tony Campolo, Joel Hunter (president of the NAE); Bill and Lynne Hybels; Richard Mouw, President of Fuller; and David Neff, editor-in-chief CT.
This, my friends, represents a thrust deep into the heart of evangelicalism, so long a community that by and large supported Israel. That support is no longer guaranteed, and the presence of Hunter and Hybels cements the fact."

-The Crusades
[www.prophecymatters.com]

As far as Mr. Campolo goes, well, besides his contemplative, mystical, Ancient Roman Catholic spirituality, centering prayer side, he seems to think that Israel is "stealing" their own land"¦

Listen to Tony Campolo in Bethlehem, over breakfast at the Christ at the Checkpoint conference, where just a few days ago he said this:

Sizer: "What's wrong with the settlements and the wall and so on, is that for security?"
Campolo: "Well, you're stealing land I mean, I mean, let me put it this way, the Bible says 'thou shall not steal,' you're stealing land! Do I have to be more specific? Hehe..what do you want me to say, nice diplomatic words?"

-Tony Campolo on the Israeli Occupation of Palestine
https://vimeo.com/10149203

Campolo's hope for this conference that is going on right now is that they will come up with a new way of thinking.

There is more on Campolo’s theology regarding Israel here:

Tony Campolo: Misinformed, bad theology
www.wnd.com

Tony might benefit by taking a closer look at the what the Bible says on this subject regarding The Land of Israel and To whom does it belong.

Other speakers at this conference include Brother Andrew, and Stephen Sizer.

Unfortunately, Brother Andrew has recently become somewhat imbalanced. Jacob Prasch writes that he...

"joins the Stephen Sizer and Gary Burge chorus of turning a deaf ear to the persecuted Christians in the surrounding Islamic countries to instead stupidly focus on the one nation in the region fully protecting the human rights and religious liberty of Arab Christians "“ Israel."

-Brother Andrew and Light Force
The Sorry Saga of a Has Been
[moriel.org]

Burge and Sizer are, of course, also speakers at this conference. There is so much anti-Israel stuff on the internet associated with Mr. Sizer and his [rotten] fruit, I simply don't know where to start. Here’s the scoop on Sizer's theology (he’s the one who interviewed Campolo in the video above):

Anti-Zionist Stephen Sizer
en.wikipedia.org

The Size of the Stephen Sizer Theology
moriel.org

Calvin L. Smith: Stephen Sizer as Anti-Replacement Theology Champion?
www.calvinlsmith.com

Police visit to Seismic Shock blogger after "harassment" complaint "“ the context
onlinejournalismblog.com

Stephen Sizer Complains to Police About Blogger
www.camera.org

Stephen Sizer and the Sons of Menelaus
moriel.org

He’s No "Sinner", He’s a False Prophet
www.moriel.org

Stephen Sizer Contra Melanie Philips
www.moriel.org

Response To Stephen Sizer’s Open Letter
moriel.org

Like I said, I don't know much about these things, but it appears to me that there is a battle going on within the ranks of those who claim to be the Bible believing body of Christ. It's not only over emerging church heretical things, or the six days of creation thing, and end time things, but also about what the Bible says about Israel. Are they all important? I think so, because they are all about taking God's Word at face value. Many reading this may disagree, but that's what I see.

As the friend who sent me the e-mail this morning said:

"just how much of such 'poking the finger in the pupil (apple) of God's eye' is He going to take from his "Body""

[*Disclaimer: As always, unless otherwise stated, the views expressed on the little brown blog are the personal opinions, rantings, and meanderings of this blogger.]

The Cave of the Patriarch in Hebron - burial place of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebekah, Jacob and Leah - and Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem joined a list of 150 other historical and biblical sites that Israel will give priority to for renovation and preservation.

But because Hebron and Bethlehem are under Palestinian Authority control, the decision has angered the Arab world and prompted threats of "holy war," even by "moderate" Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.
That has led international leaders to condemn Israel's decision to officially recognize two sites so sacred to the Jewish people. Though few in Israel expected the US to join in on the latest bash-fest.

Nevertheless, US State Department spokesman Mark Toner labeled Israel's heritage site list a "provocation" and an obstacle to peace.

Israelis have explained that by constantly reprimanding Israel in such terms, the US, the ostensible overseer of peace efforts in the region, is the one making peace more difficult by giving the Palestinians the justification they need to never make true peace with the Jewish state.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday responded to the mounting international criticism by pointing out that being added to the heritage list simply means that those sites will receive more attention in terms of preservation, including the Muslim areas at the Cave of the Patriarchs.

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Mosab Hassan Yousef, 30, said that his decision to abandon his Muslim faith and denounce his father's organisation had exposed his family to persecution in his home town of Ramallah and endangered his own life.

... "˜I’m not afraid of them, especially as I know that I'm doing the right thing, and I don't see them as my enemies,’ he said. "˜I do think about this a lot. But what are they going to do? Are they going to kill me? If they want to kill me, let them do it. I'm not going to stop anyone. It's going to be my freedom.’

... Mr Yousef said that his doubts about Islam and Hamas crystallised when he realised not all Hamas leaders were like his father, a moderate who he describes as "˜open-minded, very humble and honest’. Mr Yousef said that he was appalled by the brutality of the movement, including the suicide bombers seeking glory through jihad. "˜Hamas, they are using civilians' lives, they are using children, they are using the suffering of people every day to achieve their goals. And this is what I hate,’ he said.

But now we learn that his courage and his principles extended far further than this. As Ha’aretz reports, for ten years Yousef worked for the Israeli security service Shin Bet for whom the intelligence he provided saved countless lives from human bomb attacks:

During the second intifada, intelligence Yousef supplied led to the arrests of a number of high-ranking Palestinian figures responsible for planning deadly suicide bombings... Loai [Yousef’s Shin Bet handler] makes no secret of his admiration for his former source. "˜The amazing thing is that none of his actions were done for money,’ he says. "˜He did things he believed in. He wanted to save lives. His grasp of intelligence matters was just as good as ours - the ideas, the insights. One insight of his was worth 1,000 hours of thought by top experts.

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Together, they make up the text of the Song of the Sea, sung by jubilant Israelites after fleeing slavery in Egypt and witnessing the destruction of the pharaoh's armies in the Red Sea.

"The enemy said: 'I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil. My lust shall be satisfied upon them, I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them,'" reads the song, which appears in the Book of Exodus. "Thou didst blow thy wind, the sea covered them. They sank like lead in the mighty waters."

An exhibit at Israel's national museum dedicated to the Song of the Sea is now bringing together the two long-separated pieces.

One page of the song, known as the Ashkar manuscript, was previously housed in a rare books library at Duke University in North Carolina and was first displayed at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem in 2007.

That's when a photograph of the manuscript in a local newspaper caught the eye of two Israeli paleographers, Mordechay Mishor and Edna Engel, who noticed it resembled a different page of Hebrew writing known as the London manuscript, presently part of the private collection of Stephan Loewentheil of New York.

"The uniformity of the letters, the structure of the text, and the techniques used by the scribe ... it made it very clear to me," Engel said.

The relationship would not be so clear to a casual observer. The Ashkar manuscript has been so blackened by exposure to the elements that the text is all but invisible, while the London manuscript is legible and far better preserved. But after close study of ultraviolet images, the experts were able to confirm that the texts were not only written by the same scribe, but were also part of the same scroll.

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A 3,000-year-old defensive wall possibly built by King Solomon has been unearthed in Jerusalem, according to the Israeli archaeologist who led the excavation. The discovery appears to validate a Bible passage, she says.

The tenth-century B.C. wall is 230 feet (70 meters) long and about 6 meters (20 feet) tall. It stands along what was then the edge of Jerusalem"”between the Temple Mount, still Jerusalem's paramount landmark, and the ancient City of David, today a modern-day Arab neighborhood called Silwan.

The stone barrier is part of a defensive complex that includes a gatehouse, an adjacent building, and a guard tower, which has been only partially excavated, according to Eilat Mazar, who led the dig for the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Over the years, the structures have been partially demolished"”their building materials scavenged for later structures"”and what remained was buried under rubble, Mazar said.

The Bible's First Book of Kings"”widely believed to have been written centuries after the time period in question"”says Solomon, king of Israel, built a defensive wall in Jerusalem. The new discovery is the first archaeological evidence of this structure, Mazar says.

(Related: "King Solomon's Mines Rediscovered?")

Bearing Out a Bible Passage?

Ancient artifacts found in and around the complex pointed Mazar to the tenth-century B.C. date.

"We don't have many kings during the tenth century that could have built such a structure, basically just David and Solomon," she said.

According to the Bible, King David, of David-and-Goliath fame, was the father of King Solomon, who is said to have built the First Temple of Jerusalem on the Temple Mount.

Ceramics found near the wall helped narrow the date down, being of a level of sophistication common to the second half of the tenth century B.C."”King Solomon's time, according to Mazar.

Three-foot-tall (one-meter-tall) earthenware storage vessels were found near the gatehouse, one of them with a Hebrew inscription indicating the container belonged to a high-ranking government official.

Figurines typical of tenth-century B.C. Jerusalem"”including four-legged animals and large-breasted women likely symbolizing fertility"”were also uncovered, as were jar handles bearing impressions reading "to the king" and various Hebrew names, she said.

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Yad L’Achim’s Facebook page ‚  state: The Jewish soul is a precious, all-too-rare resource, and we are not prepared to give up on even a single one. .. There are no "lost causes." Yad ‚  L’Achim will continue its rescue activities, together with its efforts at Jewish outreach, as long as the problem of missionaries and Jewish-Arab marriage"¦" ‚   ‚   ‚  Yad L’Achim really believes it has soul rights on all Jews and will do anything to bring ‚  secular, atheist, Reform, agnostic, ‚  Messianic ‚  Jewish souls to Orthodox Judaism, and the Rebbe!

Yad L’Achim have been linked to the Ami-bomber by Teitel ‚  himself who claims he was one of their volunteer activists, a claim Yad ‚  L’Achim are predictably quick to refute. However such was the case when Yad L’Achim switched stories when a Chabadnik ‚  Yad L’Achim volunteer ‚  Raphael Miriashvili, 25, of Lod was found murdered in Israel.

Artovski is no stranger to both sides of the law and knows the terrain well.

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Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize ... She was not selected.

Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German and Russian Peoples looking the other way!

Now, more than ever, with Iraq , Iran , and others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it's imperative to make sure the world never forgets, because there are others who would like to do it again.

The terrible disastrous earthquake in Haiti has generated responses from many nations. The US has sent supplies and personnel, Britain sent 64 firemen and 8 volunteers, France sent troops for Search and Rescue. Many large and wealthy nations of the world sent money. The Arab and Moslem world nothing.

Israel, a nation of 7.5 million people has sent a team of 220 people that includes Medical personnel and will establish the largest field hospital in Haiti, treating up to 5000 people a day, an experienced Search and Rescue team and medical supplies. As in previous earthquake disasters, such as in Gujarat India in 2001 and in Turkey, in the bombings in Kenya, Israel has been one of the most generous givers of aid and assistance

Turkey seems to have forgotten this help as its extreme Moslem Government is cozying up to Iran.

Judge Goldstone, where are you now? Eating your heart out and hanging your head down in shame I hope.

The favorite occupation in the UN is Israel bashing. More resolutions have been passed condemning Israel than all the so called democratic nations such as Sudan, China, Russia and others for their crimes against their minorities.

I think it is time that the world should know about Israel's disproportionate response.

Particularly serious is the fact - revealed by Yuval Azoulay in the October 2 edition of the Hebrew-language Haaretz Magazine - that behind the threats, the spreading of harmful rumors and harassment are not only the thugs of Yad L'Achim, but top Interior Ministry officials.

The officials, including Amos Arbel, head of the Population Administration in Tel Aviv, received information on the private lives of individuals described as "members of a messianic cult." On the pretext of counteracting "missionaries" who had "acted against the Jewish people," these officials trampled on people's basic rights.

It's hard to believe - a government agency tasked with delivering public services to citizens (mainly granting permits) is persecuting people for their opinions and beliefs while leaning on an extremist, violent organization. The infuriating interrogation of the university student Barbara Ludwig for alleged missionary work and the fact that her personal file (which was supposed to be classified) was transferred to Yad L'Achim is a blatant violation of Israel's Basic Law on Human Dignity and Liberty.

The organization's shady links with the establishment are not new - for years, its activists have provided information to rabbinical courts seeking to stick their hands into sensitive cases at the Social Affairs Ministry. More than once the group has enjoyed the assistance of ultra-Orthodox politicians such as Menachem Porush, who as deputy social affairs minister in 1991 wrote to a court pleading for mercy toward the group's activists who had kidnapped an orphan from relatives who were "not religious enough." But the Interior Ministry employees' collaboration with the group outdoes even that abhorrent precedent.

The government must call its employees to order immediately, to explain to Interior Minister Eli Yishai that he is not responsible for maintaining the purity of the Jewish race according to the formula of ultra-Orthodox zealots, and that any collaboration with Yad L'Achim is, in effect, a grave instance of persecution.

Amos Arbel, head of the Population Administration in Tel Aviv ... is persecuting people for their opinions and beliefs...

Menachem Porush ... wrote to a court pleading for mercy toward the group's activists who had kidnapped an orphan from relatives who were "not religious enough"

The government must explain to Interior Minister Eli Yishai that any collaboration with Yad L'Achim is, in effect, a grave instance of persecution.

Arad persecution.

Have a short and brutal year", was the 'greeting' Yoyakim got from an anonymous caller, on the Jewish 2009 New Year, Rosh-Hashanah. The man on the other end of the line hung-up the phone after that. since then, quite a few
things happened:

One of the main leaders in the hate-filled harassments against the believers in Arad for the last 5 years, the chief Ashkenazi Rabbi of Arad, died just before 'Yom Kippur'. He is the one who stood in front of Poly Sigulim's private house in 2004
with 250 demonstrators and compared the believers in Yeshua to Israel's worst enemies.

About 3 weeks ago, around the same time, on the 24th of September, 2009, Rebecca and Barry Punchard, a believing couple here in Arad, who have been sticking their necks out for the Sudanese refugees, were on their way again to help these people in Arad. These Sudanese are very much despised in this little town, for taking all the jobs around, mainly in the hotels, as cheap labour, and unfortunately, are being accused of anything and everything except for murder.

Barry and Rebecca have been helping them, since they were cheated many times by real estate agencies for instance, who have threatened not once to throw a Sudanese family out of the apartment for supposedly not paying their bills. On this day, the 24th of September, Rebecca was going to translate for a group of Sudanese women who were trying to get to the Mayor, who had promised on TV to help them in the past, to stop them from being thrown out of an apartment, which they were using as a kindergarten. Rebecca had also invited a TV reporter. He couldn ‚ ¹t come and asked them to film instead of him.

This is where the whole mess started. It is hard to put it all in order, since so many things happened so quickly and horribly, but we will try and be concise.

Rebecca and the group were met by the police, including the head of the police, who found out somehow that they were going to the Mayor. They were told very sternly that they were not allowed to demonstrate.

Still they were going to try and talk with the Mayor. At the Town Hall they were met by the police again, who this time were very angry and told them to leave. Rebecca tried to talk to the head of the police, who in the past seemed very nice, to try and explain the urgency of the matter for the mothers, whose kids would not have a place to gather in the mornings while mothers are at work. The response was very stern again, and so they left. What Barry and Rebecca weren't realizing was that the funeral march of the chief Arad rabbi, who died, was supposed to pass in that very area. It seems like an unfortunate co-incidence.

They arrived at the kindergarten, only to find out their stuff was already being thrown out by someone who came to renovate. Barry Punchard was there with a friend, filming. They had not been there for a few minutes, when a whole load of policemen swarmed in.

Sudanese women were dragged out of the kindergarten by their hair. One of the police men was making racist remarks about the Sudanese. There were cries and screams. A big guy dressed in civilian clothes stood in front of Barry and demanded the camera. Barry refused. He was pushed violently. Some Sudanese women came to his help, screaming in distress, and they were beaten. In the local news papers police claims one of the Sudanese women beat the chief of police with some kind of a board. Barry was taken to the police station, but not before he managed to hand the camera over to Rebecca. Rebecca gave the camera to a friend that was there, but the police demanded it off him. Rebecca was told to make her own way to the police station, since she had her little toddler and her 9 year old daughter with her. She was threatened they were going to deport Barry for supposedly not having a valid visa. She put her daughters in the care of her friend, and made her way to the police. Some Sudanese were arrested, including a pregnant woman [9th month], who was put in hand cuffs. At the police station, Rebecca saw Barry cuffed hand and foot. Barry testifies he was beaten again at the police station, while he was cuffed. She tried to talk to him but was aggressively told to stay away.

While she was investigated, a police man erased out of her mobile phone clips she managed to film of what happened. She was then arrested for incitement to terror and violence. She insisted on making contact with a lawyer. They tried to put her off by telling her it was a 'long procedure'. Finally she managed to make contact. Barry was made to sign a statement in
Hebrew, a language he does not understand. Since Barry suffers from hernia, he was taken to the emergency to be checked. His hernia wasn't hurt by the beating, but they took him cuffed hand and foot to the hospital, like a criminal. While he was in jail, Barry was made to take off his hernia belt again and again. He now suffers from pain because of that.

We were just on our way up North when all this was happening. Yo-Yakim got a call, demanding he comes and takes 'his friends stuff' from the police station'. When Yo-Yakim said he was up North, the policeman wished him a good time and put the phone down. We frantically tried to make contact with Barry and Rebecca, but of course, they couldn't talk with us. They were both taken to jail. Rebecca testifies the jail was horrible. She was put into a dark room. When her eyes got used to the dark, she saw old food on the beds, garbage over flowing. The toilet was dirty, the towel was mouldy, the sheets were filthy, and the mattresses were full of bed bugs.

A woman in the cell said no one came to clean in the five days she had been there. It was cold, but Rebecca tried to remember she was there because she helped other people. She also thought of the chances she had during the day, to tell the people who handled her along the way to the jail, and asked her why she was being arrested, about the ill treatment the Sudanese are suffering.

The next day she was put before a judge, who wasn't convinced that she was justly put in jail. The policeman representing the police, the same one who made racist remarks against the Sudanese, said he had a letter which he had not read yet from the Mayor's secretary, which would surely support his case. He handed it over to the judge to be read. The judge smiled a little and asked the policeman if he knew what he had just done. He then asked the policeman to read the letter. In it, the secretary of the Mayor was describing Rebecca's good deeds and practical help for the Sudanese. The judge described it as an excellent civilian example.

The police claimed at the court they didn ‚ ¹t know at all whether they were holding on to Barry ‚ ¹s video camera which had the whole event documented.

Rebecca was released to house arrest for five days, Barry was released to house arrest on bail by Pastor Howard Bass from Beer-Sheva for twelve days. Barry, who is 67, has a hard time digesting all of this. In the past, Barry went to the most remote places in Russia to bring Jewish people to the promised land. Now this.

In actual fact, the police were helping the owner of the flat that the Sudanese were renting, to throw them out, which is against the law. We were expecting things to get worse. We were not expecting it to come from those who are supposed to keep order. Now we are witnessing very negative articles in the local newspapers with twisted information claiming some kind of conspiracy between the "missionaries" and the unwanted Sudanese work seekers" (they don't call them "refugees" any more).

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But just like the majority of American Jews, getting on for 80 per cent of whom voted for Obama, he is a Democrat supporter who is incapable of acknowledging the truth about this President. For most American Jews, the horror of even entertaining the hypothetical possibility that they might ever in a million years have to vote for a Republican is so great they simply cannot see what is staring them in the face -- that this Democratic President is lethal for both Israel and the free world. And in this article Dershowitz shows that he too is just as blind.

Acknowledging the anxiety among some American Jews about Obama’s attitude to Israel, Dershowitz concludes uneasily that there isn’t really a problem here because all Obama is doing is putting pressure on Israel over the settlements, which most American Jews don’t support anyway. But this is totally to miss the point. The pressure over the settlements per se is not the reason for the intense concern.

It is instead, first and foremost, the fact that Obama is treating Israel as if it is the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Obama thus inverts aggressor and victim, denying Israel’s six-decade long victimisation and airbrushing out Arab aggression. The question remains: why has Obama chosen to pick a fight with Israel while soft-soaping Iran which is threatening it with genocide? The answer is obvious: Israel is to be used to buy off Iran just as Czechoslovakia was used at Munich. Indeed, I would say this is worse even than that, since I suspect that Obama "“ coming as he does from a radical leftist milieu, with vicious Israel-haters amongst his closest friends -- would be doing this to Israel even if Iran was not the problem that it is.

In any event, the double standard is egregious. Obama has torn up his previous understandings with Israel over the settlements while putting no pressure at all on the Palestinians, even though since they are the regional aggressor there can be no peace unless they end their aggression and certainly not until they accept Israel as a Jewish state, which they have said explicitly they will never do. On this, Obama is totally silent. So too is Dershowitz. That’s some omission.

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On Holocaust Memorial Day 2008, a group of just under 100 people -- Londoners and a few visitors -- took a guided tour of the old Jewish East End. They visited, among other sites of interest, the birthplace of my old chum Lionel Bart, the author of Oliver! Three generations of schoolchildren have grown up singing Bart's lyric:

Consider yourself
At 'ome!
Consider yourself
One of the family!

Those few dozen London Jews considered themselves at 'ome. But they weren't. Not any more. The tour was abruptly terminated when the group was pelted with stones, thrown by "youths"-- or to be slightly less evasive, in the current euphemism of Fleet Street, "Asian" youths. "If you go any further, you'll die," they shouted, in between the flying rubble.

A New Yorker who had just moved to Britain to start a job at the Metropolitan University had her head cut open and had to be taken to the Royal London Hospital at Whitechapel, causing her to miss the Holocaust Day "interfaith memorial service" at the East London Central Synagogue. Her friend, Eric Litwack from Canada, was also struck but did not require stitches. But if you hadn't recently landed at Heathrow, it wasn't that big a deal, not these days: Nobody was killed or permanently disfigured. And given the number of Jewish community events that now require security, perhaps Her Majesty's Constabulary was right and these Londoners walking the streets of their own city would have been better advised to do so behind a police escort.

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A European Holocaust Memorial Day on which Jews are stoned sounds like a parody of the old joke that the Germans will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz. According to a 2005 poll by the University of Bielefeld, 62 percent of Germans "are sick of all the harping on about German crimes against the Jews""”which is a cheerfully straightforward way of putting it. Nevertheless, when it comes to "harping on," these days it's the Jews who are mostly on the receiving end. While we're reprising old gags, here's one a reader reminded me of a couple of years ago, during Israel's famously "disproportionate" incursion into Lebanon: One day the U.N. Secretary General proposes that, in the interest of global peace and harmony, the world's soccer players should come together and form one United Nations global soccer team.

"Great idea," says his deputy. "Er, but who would we play?"

"Israel, of course."

Ha-ha. It always had a grain of truth, now it's the whole loaf.

Fashions do change. But however Israel changes, this fashion won't.

"Israel is unfashionable," a Continental foreign minister said to me a decade back. "But maybe Israel will change, and then fashions will change." Fashions do change. But however Israel changes, this fashion won't. The shift of most (non-American) Western opinion against the Jewish state that began in the 1970s was, as my Continental politician had it, simply a reflection of casting: Israel was no longer the underdog but the overdog, and why would that appeal to a post-war polytechnic Euro Left unburdened by Holocaust guilt?

Fair enough. Fashions change. But the new Judenhass is not a fashion, simply a stark reality that will metastasize in the years ahead and leave Israel isolated in the international "community" in ways that will make the first decade of this century seem like the good old days.

A few months after the curtailed Holocaust Day tour, I found myself in that particular corner of Tower Hamlets for the first time in years. Specifically, on Cable Street"”the scene of a famous battle in 1936, when Sir Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists, in a crude exercise of political muscle, determined to march through the heart of Jewish East London. They were turned back by a mob of local Jews, Irish Catholic dockers, and Communist agitators, all standing under the Spanish Civil War slogan: "No Pasaran." They shall not pass.

From "No Pasaran" to "If you go any further, you'll die" is a story not primarily of anti-Semitism but of unprecedented demographic transformation. Beyond the fashionable "anti-Zionism" of the Euro Left is a starker reality: The demographic energy not just in Lionel Bart's East End but in almost every Western European country is "Asian." Which is to say, Muslim. A recent government statistical survey reported that the United Kingdom's Muslim population is increasing ten times faster than the general population. Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp, and many other Continental cities from Scandinavia to the C ƒ ´te d'Azur will reach majority Muslim status in the next few years.

Brussels has a Socialist mayor, which isn't that surprising, but he presides over a caucus a majority of whose members are Muslim, which might yet surprise those who think we're dealing with some slow, gradual, way-off-in-the-future process here. But so goes Christendom at the dawn of the third millennium: the ruling party of the capital city of the European Union is mostly Muslim.

There are generally two responses to this trend: The first is that it's like a cast change in Cats or, perhaps more precisely, David Merrick's all-black production of Hello, Dolly! Carol Channing and her pasty prancing waiters are replaced by Pearl Bailey and her ebony chorus, but otherwise the show is unchanged. Same set, same words, same arrangements: France will still be France, Germany Germany, Belgium Belgium.

The second response is that the Islamicization of Europe entails certain consequences, and it might be worth exploring what these might be. There are already many points of cultural friction -- from British banks' abolition of children's "piggy banks" to the enjoining of public doughnut consumption by Brussels police during Ramadan. And yet on one issue there is remarkable comity between the aging ethnic Europeans and their young surging Muslim populations: A famous poll a couple of years back found that 59 percent of Europeans regard Israel as the greatest threat to world peace.

Fifty-nine percent? What is wrong with the rest of you? Hey, relax: In Germany, it was 65 percent; Austria, 69 percent; the Netherlands, 74 percent. For purposes of comparison, in a recent poll of Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates -- i.e., the "moderate" Arab world -- 79 percent of respondents regard Israel as the greatest threat to world peace. As far as I know, in the last year or two, they haven't re-tested that question in Europe, possibly in case Israel now scores as a higher threat level in the Netherlands than in Yemen.

To be sure, there are occasional arcane points of dispute: one recalls, in the wake of the July 7 bombings, the then London Mayor Ken Livingstone's somewhat tortured attempts to explain why blowing up buses in Tel Aviv is entirely legitimate whereas blowing up buses in Bloomsbury is not. Yet these are minimal bumps on a smooth glide path: The more Europe's Muslim population grows, the more restive and disassimilated it becomes, the more enthusiastically the establishment embraces "anti-Zionism," as if the sinister Jewess is the last virgin left to toss in the volcano -- which, given the 13-year old "chavs" and "slappers" face down in pools of their own vomit in most British shopping centers of a Friday afternoon, may indeed be the case. For today's Jews, unlike on Cable Street in 1936, there are no Catholic dockworkers or Communist agitators to stand shoulder to shoulder. In post-Christian Europe, there aren't a lot of the former (practicing Catholics or practicing dockers), and as for the intellectual Left, it's more enthusiastic in its support of Hamas than many Gazans.

To which there are many Israelis who would brusquely reply: So what? Pity the poor Jew who has ever relied on European "friends." Yet there is a difference of scale between the well-established faculty-lounge disdain for "Israeli apartheid" and a mass psychosis so universal it's part of the air you breathe. For a glimpse of the future, consider the (for the moment) bizarre circumstances of the recent Davis Cup First Round matches in Sweden. They had been scheduled long ago to be played in the Baltiska Hallen stadium in Malmo. Who knew which team the Swedes would draw? Could have been Chile, could have been Serbia. Alas, it was Israel.

Malmo is Sweden's most Muslim city, and citing security concerns, the local council ordered the three days of tennis to be played behind closed doors. Imagine being Amir Hadad and Andy Ram, the Israeli doubles players, or Simon Aspelin and Robert Lindstedt, the Swedes. This was supposed to be their big day. But the vast stadium is empty, except for a few sports reporters and team officials. And just outside the perimeter up to 10,000 demonstrators are chanting, "Stop the match!" and maybe, a little deeper into the throng, they're shouting, "We want to kill all Jews worldwide" (as demonstrators in Copenhagen, just across the water, declared just a few weeks earlier). Did Aspelin and Lindstedt wonder why they couldn't have drawn some less controversial team, like Zimbabwe or Sudan? By all accounts, it was a fine match, thrilling and graceful, with good sportsmanship on both sides. Surely, such splendid tennis could have won over the mob, and newspapers would have reported that by the end of the match the Israeli players had the crowd with them all the way. But they shook 'em off at Helsingborg.

Do you remember the "road map" summit held in Jordan just after the U.S. invasion of Iraq? It seemed a big deal at the time: The leaders of Israel and the Palestinian Authority, the U.S. president, all the A-list dictators of the Arab League. Inside the swank resort, it was all very collegial, smiles and handshakes. Outside, flags fluttered -- Jordan's, America's, Saudi Arabia's, Egypt's, Palestine's. But not Israel's. King Abdullah of Jordan had concluded it would be too provocative to advertise the Zionist Entity's presence on Jordanian soil even at a summit supposedly boasting they were all on the same page. Malmo's tennis match observed the same conventions: I'm sure the Swedish tennis wallahs were very gracious hosts behind the walls of the stockade, and the unmarked car to the airport was top of the line. How smoothly the furtive maneuvers of the Middle East transfer to the wider world.

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When Western governments are as reluctant as King Abdullah to fly the Star of David, those among the citizenry who choose to do so have a hard time. In Britain in January, while "pro-Palestinian" demonstrators were permitted to dress up as hook-nosed Jews drinking the blood of Arab babies, the police ordered counter-protesters to put away their Israeli flags. In Alberta, in the heart of Calgary's Jewish neighborhood, the flag of Hizballah (supposedly a proscribed terrorist organization) was proudly waved by demonstrators, but one solitary Israeli flag was deemed a threat to the Queen's peace and officers told the brave fellow holding it to put it away or be arrested for "inciting public disorder." In Germany, a student in Duisburg put the Star of David in the window of an upstairs apartment on the day of a march by the Islamist group Milli G ƒ ¶r ƒ ¼s, only to have the cops smash his door down and remove the flag. He's now trying to get the police to pay for a new door. Ah, those Jews. It's always about money, isn't it?

Peter, the student in Duisberg, says he likes to display the Israeli flag because anti-Semitism in Europe is worse than at any other time since the Second World War. Which is true. But, if you look at it from the authorities' point of view, it's not about Jew-hatred; it's a simple numbers game. If a statistically insignificant Jewish population gets upset, big deal. If the far larger Muslim population -- and, in some French cities, the youth population (i.e., the demographic that riots) is already pushing 50 percent -- you have a serious public-order threat on your hands. We're beyond the anti-Semitic and into the ad hoc utilitarian: The King Abdullah approach will seem like the sensible way to avoid trouble. To modify the UN joke: Whom won't we play? Israel, of course. Not in public.

One Saturday afternoon a few weeks ago, a group wearing "BOYCOTT ISRAEL" T-shirts entered a French branch of Carrefour, the world's largest supermarket chain, and announced themselves. They then systematically advanced down every aisle examining every product, seizing all the items made in Israel and piling them into carts to take away and destroy. Judging from the video they made, the protesters were mostly Muslim immigrants and a few French leftists. But more relevant was the passivity of everyone else in the store, both staff and shoppers, all of whom stood idly by as private property was ransacked and smashed, and many of whom when invited to comment expressed support for the destruction. "South Africa started to shake once all countries started to boycott their products," one elderly lady customer said. "So what you're doing, I find it good."

Others may find Germany in the "˜30s the more instructive comparison. "It isn't silent majorities that drive things, but vocal minorities," the Canadian public intellectual George Jonas recently wrote. "Don't count heads; count decibels. All entities"”the United States, the Western world, the Arab street"”have prevailing moods, and it's prevailing moods that define aggregates at any given time." Last December, in a well-planned attack on iconic Bombay landmarks symbolizing power and wealth, Pakistani terrorists nevertheless found time to divert one-fifth of their manpower to torturing and killing a handful of obscure Jews helping the city's poor in a nondescript building. If this was a territorial dispute over Kashmir, why kill the only rabbi in Bombay? Because Pakistani Islam has been in effect Arabized. Demographically, in Europe and elsewhere, Islam has the numbers. But ideologically, radical Islam has the decibels -- in Turkey, in the Balkans, in Western Europe.

And the prevailing mood in much of the world makes Israel an easy sacrifice. Long before Muslims are a statistical majority, there will be three permanent members of the Security Council"”Britain, France, Russia"”for whom the accommodation of Islam is a domestic political imperative.

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On the heels of his call for the incorporation of Sharia within British law, the Archbishop of Canterbury gave an interview to the Muslim News praising Islam for making "a very significant contribution to getting a debate about religion into public life." Well, that's one way of putting it. The urge to look on the bright side of its own remorseless cultural retreat will intensify: Once Europeans have accepted a not entirely voluntary biculturalism, they will see no reason why Israel should not do the same, and they will embrace a one-state, one-man, one-vote solution for the land between the Jordan and the Mediterranean.

The Muslim world has spent decades peddling the notion that the reason a vast oil-rich region stretching thousands of miles is politically deformed and mired in grim psychoses is all because of a tiny strip of turf barely wider than my New Hampshire township. It will make an ever more convenient scapegoat for the problems of a far vaster territory from the mountains of Morne to the Urals. There was a fair bit of this in the days after 9/11. As Richard Ingrams wrote on the following weekend in the London i>Observer: "Who will dare to damn Israel?"

Well, take a number and get in line. The dust had barely settled on the London Tube bombings before a reader named Derrick Green sent me a congratulatory e-mail: "I bet you Jewish supremacists think it is Christmas come early, don't you? Incredibly, you are now going to get your own way even more than you did before, and the British people are going to be dragged into more wars for Israel."

In London, the highest number of Jews is found in the 50-54 age group; the highest number of Muslims are found in the four-years-and-under category.

So it will go. British, European, and even American troops will withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, and a bomb will go off in Madrid or Hamburg or Manchester, and there will be nothing left to blame except Israeli "disproportion." For the remnants of European Jewry, the already discernible migration of French Jews to Quebec, Florida, and elsewhere will accelerate. There are about 150,000 Jews in London today -- it's the thirteenth biggest Jewish city in the world. But there are approximately one million Muslims. The highest number of Jews is found in the 50-54 age group; the highest number of Muslims are found in the four-years-and-under category. By 2025, there will be Jews in Israel, and Jews in America, but not in many other places. Even as the legitimacy of a Jewish state is rejected, the Jewish diaspora -- the Jewish presence in the wider world -- will shrivel.

And then, to modify Richard Ingrams, who will dare not to damn Israel? There'll still be a Holocaust Memorial Day, mainly for the pleasures it affords to chastise the new Nazis. As Anthony Lipmann, the Anglican son of an Auschwitz survivor, wrote in 2005: "When on 27 January I take my mother's arm -- tattoo number A-25466 -- I will think not just of the crematoria and the cattle trucks but of Darfur, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Jenin, Fallujah." Jenin?

You can see why they'll keep Holocaust Day on the calendar: In an age when politicians are indifferent or downright hostile to Israel's "right to exist," it's useful to be able to say, "But some of my best photo-ops are Jewish."

The joke about Mandatory Palestine was that it was the twice-promised land. But isn't that Europe, too? And perhaps Russia and maybe Canada, a little ways down the line? Two cultures jostling within the same piece of real estate. Not long ago, I found myself watching the video of another "pro-Palestinian" protest in central London with the Metropolitan Police retreating up St. James's Street to Piccadilly in the face of a mob hurling traffic cones and jeering, "Run, run, you cowards!" and "Allahu akbar!" You would think the deluded multi-culti progressives would understand: In the end, this isn't about Gaza, this isn't about the Middle East; it's about them. It may be some consolation to an ever-lonelier Israel that, in one of history's bleaker jests, in the coming Europe the Europeans will be the new Jews.

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Barack Hussein Obama

• A member of a racist church with a racist pastor whom Obama called 'family' who preached "God Damn America" to which he contributed $500 in tax deductible gifts weekly. At the same time Obama mocked and denounced others for holding onto their faith while his faith is a church that preaches racial hatred and prays for America's damnation.
• Who proclaimed June Gay & Lesbian Pride Month (Romans 1: 26-27).
• Who has lied, lied, and lied again. Promising change and that no legislation would not be pre-published on The White House website Obama instead gave the most massive mound of deficit and debt built budget to congress the night before the vote , quadrupling the already horrific Bush deficits. This proven liar is an out of control economic mad man. The Word of God warns of those who become rich by borrowing (Habakuk 2:6).
• Who is the best friend that abortion and late term abortion has ever had (Luke 1:44).
• Who now licks the boots of radical Islam in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, deliberately mute on the subject of moslem human rights abuses and oblivious to the cries of the persecuted church.
• Who puts nearly another $1 billion dollars on the US tax payer credit card to fund UN projects in Gaza knowing very well that the administration of such projects is funding terrorist HAMAS.
• Who now bullies Israel , the archaeologically proven indigenous people of the land insisting they have no right to their native land, but must pander to the demands of Islam (Genesis 12: 3).

BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS THE JUDGMENT OF GOD WILL COME !

Nations get the leaders they serve and America has provoked the judgment of God.

Please Dear God may Your judgment rather fall on Barack Obama and his administration instead of the foolish backslidden nation that chose this evil son of Lucifer. May the God who establishes and removes leaders please remove this one quickly. ‚   (DANIEL 2:21).

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Obama tells Jews to stop building homes "“ in Israel!

Posted: June 28, 2009
7:07 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM "“ The Obama administration told the Palestinian Authority the "golden era" of Israeli construction in sections of Jerusalem and the strategic West Bank will soon come to an end, a top PA negotiator told WND.

"The U.S. assured us that for the first time since 1967, we are going into a period where there will not be allowed a single construction effort on the part of the Israelis in the settlements, including in Gush Etzion, Maale Adumum and eastern Jerusalem," said the negotiator, speaking from Ramallah on condition his name be withheld.

Maale Adumim is located in eastern Jerusalem. Israel reunited the eastern and western sections of Jerusalem and the West Bank during the 1967 Six Day War. Eastern Jerusalem, claimed by the PA for a future state, includes the Temple Mount.
The negotiator told WND the positions of the PA and U.S. regarding ongoing Jewish construction in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem "are closer than ever."

"The U.S. used to differentiate between natural grown and adding new communities. Not anymore. No construction will be allowed, not even natural growth," the PA negotiator said.

"Natural growth" means adding additional housing to existing communities to accommodate the needs of a growing population.
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The negotiator spoke yesterday just before Defense Minister Ehud Barak took off for Washington, D.C., for meetings with the Obama administration.

The negotiator claimed that while Barak might reach an understanding with the U.S. regarding possible West Bank movements, such a deal would be for Israeli political purposes and wouldn't translate into actual Jewish construction on the ground.

The Obama administration recently demanded Israel halt all settlement activity, including natural growth, in apparent abrogation of a deal made by President Bush to allow for natural growth.

The deal was forged just prior to Israel's 2005 retreat from the Gaza Strip. It was confirmed by Sharon aide Dov Weissglas in 2005, and in a Wall Street Journal column last week by Elliott Abrams, a former deputy national security adviser to Bush who reportedly negotiated the arrangement. The deal was in line with an official letter from Bush the year before stating Israel cannot be expected to withdraw from the entire West Bank and that the Jewish state would retain major settlement blocs there.

The West Bank borders major Israeli cities and is within rocket firing range of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Israel's international
airport.

Military strategists long have estimated Israel must maintain the West Bank to defend itself from any ground invasion. Terrorist groups have warned if Israel withdraws, they will launch rockets from the West Bank into Israeli cities.

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So is the United States. Here and there a few dozens, here and there a few hundreds. Have they evaporated because it is Tehran and not here?

All the peace-loving and justice-loving Europeans, British professors in search of freedom and equality, the friends filling the newspapers, magazines and various academic journals with various demands for boycotting Israel, defaming Zionism and blaming us and it for all the ills and woes of the world-could it be that they have taken a long summer vacation? Now of all times, when the Basij hooligans have begun to slaughter innocent civilians in the city squares of Tehran? Aren't they connected to the Internet? Don't they have YouTube? Has a terrible virus struck down their computer? Have their justice glands been removed in a complicated surgical procedure (to be re-implanted successfully for the next confrontation in Gaza)? How can it be that when a Jew kills a Muslim, the entire world boils, and when extremist Islam slaughters its citizens, whose sole sin is the aspiration to freedom, the world is silent?

Imagine that this were not happening now in Tehran, but rather here. Let ‚ ¹s say in Nablus. Spontaneous demonstrations of Palestinians turning into an ongoing bloodbath. Border Policemen armed with knives, on motorcycles, butchering demonstrators. A young woman downed by a sniper in midday, dying before the cameras. Actually, why imagine? We can just recall what happened with the child Mohammed a-Dura. How the affair (which was very harsh, admittedly) swept the world from one end to another. The fact that a later independent investigative report raised tough questions as to the identity of the weapon from which a-Dura was shot, did not make a difference to anyone. The Zionists were to blame, and that was that.

And where are the world's leaders? Where is the wondrous rhetorical ability of Barack Obama? Where has his sublime vocabulary gone? Where is the desire, that is supposed to be built into all American presidents, to defend and act on behalf of freedom seekers around the globe? What is this stammering?

A source who is connected to the Iranian and security situation, said yesterday that if Obama had shown on the Iranian matter a quarter of the determination with which he assaulted the settlements in the territories, everything would have looked different. The demonstrators in Iran are desperate for help," said the man, who served in very senior positions for many years, they need to know that they have backing, that there is an entire world that supports them, but instead they see indifference. And this is happening at such a critical stage of this battle for the soul of Iran and the freedom of the Iranian people. It's sad."

Or the European Union, for example. The organization that speaks of justice and peace all year round. Why should its leaders not declare clearly that the world wants to see a democratic and free Iran, and support it unreservedly? Could it be that the tongue of too many Europeans is still connected to dark places? The pathetic excuse that such support would give Khamenei and Ahmadinejad an excuse to call the demonstrators ‚ ³Western agents, ‚ ² does not hold water. They call them "Western agents" in any case, so what difference does it make?

To think that just six months ago, when Europe was flooded with demonstrations against Israel, leftists and Islamists raised pictures of Nasrallah, the prot ƒ ©g ƒ © of the ayatollah regime. The fact that this was a benighted regime did not trouble them. This is madness, but it is sinking in and influencing the weary West. If there is a truly free world here, let it appear immediately! And impose sanctions, for example, on those who slaughter the members of their own people. Just as it imposed them on North Korea, or on the military regime in Burma.

It is only a question of will, not of ability.

Apparently, something happens to the global adherence to justice and equality, when it comes to Iran. The oppression is overt and known. The Internet era broadcasts everything live, and it is all for the better.

Hooligans acting on behalf of the regime shoot and stab masses of demonstrators, who cry out for freedom.

Is anything more needed? Apparently it is. Because it is to no avail. The West remains indifferent. Obama is polite. Why shouldn ‚ ¹t he be, after all, he aspires to a dialogue with the ayatollahs. And that is very fine and good, the problem is that at this stage there is no dialogue, but there is death and murder on the streets. At this stage, one must forget the rules of etiquette for a moment. The voices being heard from Obama elicit concern that we are actually dealing with a new version of Chamberlain. Being conciliatory is a positive trait, particularly when it follows the clumsy bellicosity of George Bush, but when conciliation becomes blindness, we have a problem.

The courageous voice of Angela Merkel, who issued yesterday a firm statement of support for the Iranian people and its right to freedom, is in the meantime a lone voice in the Western wilderness. It is only a shame that she has not announced an economic boycott, in light of the fact that this is the European country that is most invested in building infrastructure in Iran.

She was joined by British Foreign Secretary Miliband. It is little, it is late, it is not enough. Millions of freedom seekers have taken to the streets in Iran, and the West is straddling the fence, one leg here, the other leg there. There is a different Islam. This is already clear today.

Even in Iran. There are millions of Muslims who support freedom, human rights, equality for women. These millions loathe Khamenei, Chavez and Nasrallah too. But part of the global left wing prefers the ayatollah regime over them. The main thing is for them to raise flags against Israel and America.

The question is why the democrats, the liberals, and Obama, Blair and Sarkozy, are continuing to sit on the fence. This is not a fence of separation, it is a fence of shame

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Stop the War statement on the crisis in Iran

The crisis unfolding in Iran must not become the pretext for renewed intervention by the USA or Britain in the region, nor for a whipping up of further tension around Iran ‚ ¹s nuclear programme.
The responsibility of the anti-war movement is first of all to oppose the role of the British government in the region, and to prevent its posturing being used as a pretence to justify a US or Israeli military attack against Iran, an attack which would have catastrophic results for the whole Middle East, and the Iranian people first of all.

The Stop the War Coalition believes that resolving the crisis is the right and responsibility of the Iranian people alone, and that external interference can play no positive role particularly interference by those powers which have laid waste to neighbouring Iraq in a lawless war and occupation, and which unfailingly support Israeli aggression in the region.

It would be wrong for us to take any position on the disputed outcome of the Iranian presidential election. We do, however, support the right to demonstrate peacefully, just as we support the Iranian people ‚ ¹s right to political, trade union and other civil freedoms and to struggle to achieve them. We unequivocally condemn the shooting of protesters and other violations of democratic liberties by the Iranian government.

We note the anger displayed by many Iranians against the British government.

These sentiments reflect Britain's shameful history in the country, from overthrowing the democratic regime of Mossadeq in 1952, to its stalwart support for the Shah's despotism and its support for Saddam Hussein in his aggression against the Islamic Republic in the 1980s.

This anger can only be exacerbated by British interference in the present crisis. The British government remained silent when its ally Hosni Mubarak falsified election results in Egypt, and it has refused to deal with democratically-elected leaders in the Palestine Authority and in Lebanon.
The government supports the Saudi kleptocracy, which does not need to manipulate elections because they are never held there.

The British and US governments wish to see regime change in Iran in order to dominate the Middle East and its resources and leave Israel as the region's unchallenged military superpower. And a government which ignored millions of its own people marching against its planned war against Iraq is in no position to lecture others on democratic attitudes.

In expressing our solidarity with all the Iranian people striving for a democratic outcome to the crisis in their country, the Coalition will support demonstrations and initiatives which reflect these principles.

Note: This is a draft statement by the officers of Stop the War Coalition, which will be put for endorsement to Stop the War's National Steering Committee on Saturday 27 June 2009
office@stopwar.org.uk