Mieru Nomierināšanas - Peace ar islāmu

by Mike Openheimers
Let Us Reason Ministries

Par pēdējo nedēļu notikumi ir monumentāls gan politiski, gan garīgi, gan tie var aiziet nepamanīts daudz. Pirms mēs sirdī šīs vēstkopas tēmu, ļaujiet man sniegt pamatinformāciju.

Islāms cīnās ar savu karu divās frontēs. Viens ir skaidrs, iznīcinot rietumu civilizācija terorisms ar sprādzieniem. Otrs ir, izmantojot plašsaziņas līdzekļiem, lai veicinātu mieru mācību programma, kas iepazīstina ar savu reliģiju, kā pakļāvīgs, skaista un pat nekaitīgs. Ka tas ir ekstrēmisti ļaunprātīgi izmanto savu reliģiju, un tas ir tikai pusē mēs dzirdam šajā ziņas. Patiesībā, mēs reti dzirdēt to, kas īsti notiek ikdienā.

Džihāds ir musulmaņu uzskata, ka pasaule ir sadalīta divās daļās: musulmaņu un ne-musulmaņu iedzīvotāju un zemes. Dhimmi ir jebkura ne-musulmaņu, kas ir pieļaujama saskaņā ar islāma varu valdība savā zemē. Latvija 9:29 "Cīņa tiem, kas netic Allah ... līdz viņi maksā nodokli apstiprinājumu pārākumu un tie ir par pakļaušana ar mieru iesniegšanas valstīm un jūtas vājākas" (1917 Maulana Mohammed Ali Translation). "Dhimmi" ietver gan ebrejiem un kristiešiem kā vienu vienību, jo tās saista kā no grāmatas People. Šī frāze ir grāmatu cilvēki lieto vairākas reizes Qu'ran.

In 5:15 treknie: "O cilvēkus grāmatu! Tur darījis nākt pie jums mūsu Messenger, kas atklāj jums daudz, ka jūs izmanto slēpjas Book, un iet pa daudz (tas ir tagad nevajadzīga). Tur darījis nāku pie jums no Allah (jauna) gaismas un saprotams Book ". Qu'ran ir ļoti spēcīga valoda, kas bieži vien uzbrukums un ļauns cilvēki Book, ebreji un Christians.Here (un citur), mēs atklājam, ka Mohammad's atklāsme ir aizvietot Vecās un Jaunās Derības. Šiem atklājumiem radās kā reakcija uz ebrejiem un kristiešiem atteicās pieņemt Mohammed kā pravieti un convert.The Qu'ran ir musulmaņi konstitūcija par visu dzīvē (ieskaitot Hadith, kas ir komentārs par pravieša Muhameda dzīvi). Kad cilvēki paziņojums diviem dažādiem paziņojumiem teica pašu tēmu mēs bieži vien ir teicis, ka musulmaņi vardarbīgas panti ir atcelti ar mierīgu ziņā; NO-tā ir pretēja. Vēlāk atklājumiem tika nodotas pirmās. Qu'ran ir izvietots tā, lai agrāk nodaļām ir vēlāk un vēlāk, ir agrāk. Nezinot, tā var nesaprast, kas Mohammed teica savā pēdējā atklājumiem no viņa dievs, kas atceļ agrāk.

In 25:51-52 PeR At (Al-Furqan) musulmaņi ir uzdots "cīnīties" pret neticīgajiem. Tas ir divās jomās.

Džihāds ir beztermiņa konfliktu un Normālā stāvoklī attiecības starp ne-musulmaņu un musulmaņu. Mohammed vispārējās novest 27 invasions, tās tiktu uzskatītas Jihad. Mohammad Dažreiz institūts pagaidu miers, kas ir viņa labā. Visi spēlē tie ir mūsdienu time.The fona Black atbrīvošanās teoloģijas atsperes no marksisma ideoloģijas panākt vienlīdzību cilvēkiem, kas ir apspiesti. Rev Wright, kurš agrāk bija Obamas mācītājs nesen teicis, dienas prese Newport News

Va "Them Ebreji nav grasās ļaut viņam runāt ar mani. Es teicu mans bērns meita, ka viņš būs runāt ar mani piecu gadu laikā, kad viņš ir klibs pīle vai astoņiem gadiem, kad viņš no amata, "Wright teica, saskaņā ar Virginia's Daily Press." Tie neļaus viņam ... runāt kādam kurš zvana lāpsta kas tas ir. "etnisko tīrīšanu, kas notiek Gazā. Etniskās tīrīšanas un cionistu ir grēks un noziegums pret cilvēci, un viņi nevēlas Barack runājam, piemēram, ka tāpēc, ka ir anti-Israel, "Wright said.President Obama ir ērti uz 20 gadiem, Wright baznīca, kas rada Jēzu kā melns vīrietis kaujas balta apspiešanu. Tāpēc mums ir jāsaprot teoloģijas atbrīvošanas teoloģijā (lai uzzinātu vairāk par

Melna atbrīvošanās teoloģiju) Ir būtiski izprast savu ticību, apgūt to, kas notiek un kur mēs esam nosaukumu. Mums ir, uz to dziļumu daudzās biļeteni 2008. Gada 4 jūnijs 2009 President Obama uzstājās 2500 ierēdņiem klāt Kairas Universitātes un musulmaņiem visā pasaulē (tie ir fragmenti no visas runas ievietoti Valsts departamenta mājas lapā). Ir tādi, kas domāja, viņa runa tika revolucionāro, citi reaģēja negatīvi ietekmējusi viņa runu. Mēs apskatīsim daļas, kas piemērojami islāmu, un viņa pārvaldes politikas izmaiņas attiecībā pret Izraēlu. Mums ir jāsaprot, ka mūsu laikā, Politics do ietekmēt mūsu ticību un baznīcu. Es rakstīju biļetenu par citu tēmu un apstājās, lai risinātu šo, jo tas ir tik svarīgi. kā pasaules notikumi ir aktuālās, kas saistīti ar jaunu politiku Amerikā.

[Uzsvēra porcijas runa ir tas, kas tiks izskatīti un mani komentāri ir zilā krāsā.]

"Prezidents Obama runā ar musulmaņu pasauli no Kairas"

: Pēc prezidents sniedza ievadu pilsētas Cario un cilvēkiem, viņš norādīja - "Es esmu arī lepna līdzi man gribas no Amerikas iedzīvotājiem, un miera sveiciens no musulmaņu kopienām manā valstī: Assalaamu alaykum . "

Obamas runu maisījumi reliģiju ar politiku. Šajā runā sākas un beidzas, kā reliģisko runu. Neviens cits prezidents ir iesniegusi šādu reliģisko runu izlīgšanas islāmam laikā, kad mums ir vajadzīgs spēks.

"Assalaamu alaykum", nevar uzskatīt, ka kristiešiem un ebrejiem vai jebkuru citu reliģiju, bet islāmu. Tas nozīmē Miera pār jums, kā? Pieņemot pravietis un reliģijas Islam.Obama šķiet ērtāk ar islāmu citās valstīs nekā citās reliģijās tas ir pretrunā ar viņa paša valstī.

.” "Mēs sanāksmju laikā liela spriedze starp ASV un musulmaņiem visā pasaulē - spriedzi, kas sakņojas vēsturiskās spēki, kas pārsniedz jebkuras pašreizējās debatēs par politiku. Saikni starp islāmu un Rietumiem ietver gadsimtiem līdzāspastāvēšanu un sadarbību, bet arī konfliktiem un reliģiskie kari. Vēl nesen, spriedze ir baroti ar koloniālismu, kas liegtas tiesības un iespējas daudz musulmaņu, un aukstais karš, kurā musulmaņu vairākuma valstīm bija pārāk bieži uzskata par pilnvarniekiem, kā, neņemot vērā savas vēlmes. Turklāt slaucīšana izmaiņas, ko ar modernismu un globalizācijas rezultātā daudzi musulmaņi, lai apskatītu Rietumos, kā naidīgi noskaņotas pret islāma tradīcijas. "

True, šī spriedze ir seno reliģisko un ir bijis, bet pāris reizes sadarbību. Tomēr Amerikā nekad nav bijis iesaistīts koloniālisma, piemēram, Anglijas vai citām valstīm. Mums nav liegtas tiesības, jo patiesībā tie ir dotas tiesības. Mums tikai jāmeklē Irākai šo mūsdienu piemērs. Mēs kopā ar citām tautām cīnījās pret Saddams tyrranical režīmā. Kad viņš noņēma Mums nav spēkā tos, piemēram, Amerikā vai noliegt savu reliģiju. Patiesībā tas ir islāms, kas ir naidīgi pret mūsdienu civilizācijas, jo īpaši attiecībā uz rietumu demokrātiju. Iemeslu dēļ: brīvība ir drauds viņiem, gan politisko un reliģisko brīvību.

.  The attacks of September 11, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights.  All this has bred more fear and more mistrust. Tie ir naidīgi noskaņoti pret kaut ko, kas neiederas ar islāma tradīcijas. "Vardarbīga ekstrēmistiem izmantojuši šo spriedzi nelielu, bet spēcīgu mazākumam musulmaņiem. Gada 11 septembra uzbrukumiem, 2001 pastāvīgos centienus šiem ekstrēmistiem iesaistīties vardarbības pret civiliedzīvotāji ir radījis dažas manas valsts, lai apskatītu islāmu kā nenovēršami naidīga ne tikai Amerikā un Rietumu valstīm, bet arī uz cilvēktiesībām. Tas viss ir auguši vairāk bailes un neuzticību.

Tik ilgi, kamēr mūsu attiecības definē ar mūsu atšķirībām, mēs dotu iespēju tiem, kas sivēnmātes naidu, nevis mieru, kas veicinātu konfliktu, nevis sadarbībai, kas var palīdzēt visiem mūsu cilvēkiem sasniegt taisnīguma un labklājības. Un šis aizdomas disonanse ciklā ir end. "

Mēs nevaram palīdzēt skatīšanās islāmu kā kaut kas, bet ir naidīgi noskaņoti pret Ameriku un Rietumu valstīm, un pret cilvēktiesībām. Tas ir pierādīts ar, kā viņi vada savas valstis un sadarboties ar citiem. Tie neļauj vārda vai lūgšanu. Gan tiem, kas nodarbojas vardarbība ir mazāks skaits daudz lielāks atbalsts to darbības.

Tas ir acīmredzams izmantošana Hegalian Dialectic process (kas izmantoja Marxists pirms tam), lai pārliecinātu neizglītots, neizglītots un nepiesardzīgs stājas jauns veids, kā dzīvot. Mērķis ir "pārmaiņas" politisko viedokli, pārveidot uzskatiem. Kam mums jākoncentrējas uz dažām lietām, kuras mēs varētu piekrist, lai tie, mēs piekrītam, tiks ignorētas un jāaizstāj ar jaunu sadarbības (viņš aicina jauns vecuma). Kā amerikāņi un rietumu civilizācija mums nav nekāda sakara ar taisnīgumu un labklājību, kas ir iekļauts islāmu. Tas nav sajaukšanas āboliem un apelsīniem, tas ir sajaucot eļļu ar ūdeni.

Instead, they overlap, and share common principles — principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings .” "Es esmu šeit nācis uz Kairu meklēt jaunu sākumu starp Amerikas Savienotajām Valstīm un musulmaņiem visā pasaulē, kas balstīta uz savstarpēju interesi un savstarpēju cieņu, un vienu, kas pamatojas uz patiesību, ka Amerika un islāms nav ekskluzīvas, un nav jābūt konkurence. vietā tie pārklājas, un ir kopīgi principi - principi, taisnīgumu un attīstību, iecietība un cieņa pret visiem cilvēkiem. "

Varat sākt ar to, kā Qu'ran disavows ievēro pasakot lietas par ebreji un kristieši un pat ateisti. Islāms nav sakarā ar tiem, kam tās nepiekrīt tikai tad, ja mēs argree ar tiem. Nav pielīdzināms valsts balstās uz cilvēku brīvību un iespēju izvēlēties gan vīrieši un sievietes ar reliģiju, kas nomāc sievietes, vai atļaut līdztiesību. Nav iespējas izvēlēties cita skatu punkta, dievkalpojumiem vai attīstīt savas prāta attīstībai.

Mēs varam mācīties cits no cita, ja tas norāda, 3:118 treknie: "Ak, tu, kas tic! Lietojiet nevis kā savu draugu, kas ir ārpus savu reliģiju [ebreji un kristieši], jo viņi nav to nedara visu iespējamo, lai korumpēti jums. "

Viņi mācās ne uzticēties ikvienam, bet musulmaņu, un viņi to nedara labi, ka vai nu.

Par Qu'ran saka 3:61 "Tad tas, kurš strīdu ar Jums par viņu [Jēzus], galu galā zinot, ka ir pienācis jūs [tas ir Jēzus ir vergu of Allah un kam nav daļa Dievības] saka:" Nāc, let mums zvanīt mūsu dēli un jūsu dēli, mūsu sievietēm un jūsu sievietes, sevi un sevi - tad mēs lūdzam un atsaukties nolādēt no Allah uz tiem, kas gulēt [kas uzskata, Jēzus ir dēls Allah]. "Ir tikai viens uzskata, ka ir derīgs-savējo.

Bieži vien mēs dzirdam Qu'ran uzrādīta, "Let nav nekādas piespiešanas reliģijā" (2:256). Tomēr ir kvalifikācija 3:85 Eurovision "Personu, kas vēlas, izņemot islāmu kā savu reliģiju, tas nav atbalstāms no viņa." Tādējādi, Mohammed teica: "Man ir pasūtīts cīnīties ar cilvēkiem, līdz tie saka, neviens ir tiesības būt pielūdz, bet Allah "(Al Bukhari vol. 4:196).

Kā tā var teikt, nepastāv konkurence, un mums ir kopīgi principi un tiesiskumu?

"Ir jābūt ilgtspējīgiem centieniem ieklausīties savā starpā; mācīties vienai no otras puses; cienīt vienam otru, kā arī meklēt kopīgu pamatu. Kā Svētā Korāna saka mums:" Esiet apzinās Dieva un runāt vienmēr patiesību. "( aplausi.) Tieši to es mēģināšu darīt šodien - runāt patiesību, kas manos spēkos, humbled ar uzdevumu pirms mums, un uzņēmums mana pārliecība, ka t viņa intereses, mēs kopīgi kā cilvēki ir daudz spēcīgāks nekā spēki kas virza mūs intervālu. "

Es nevarēju atrast dzejā viņš minēts Qu'ran?

Respect būtu bijis kaut kas Mohammed praktizēt, bet viņš bija kaut ko sauc hudna, Termins, ko izmanto savā kampaņā pret Quariash cilts līgumu Hudaybiya in 628 AD.

Šī pati koncepcija ir jāievēro šodien

Kad palestīniešu līderis Yassar Arafata parakstīts Oslo vienošanās 1993.gadā, viņš sāka atvainoties in arābu musulmaņu visā pasaulē, paskaidrojot viņam pēc Muhameda piemērs hudna, taktisku manevru maldināt Izraēlu un galu galā iznīcinās viņu. Tas bija 10-gadu pamiers, ko pravieša Muhameda in 628 AD ar Quraysh cilts. Islāma spēki izmanto miera līgumu, dažus gadus vēlāk, kad tie kļūst spēcīgāka viņi sakāva Quraysh cilts.

"Mēs pārspīlēt, kad mēs sakām" miera "... ko runa ir par ir" Hudna "pagaidu pamiers." (Arābu Kneseta loceklis Abdel Maleh Dahamshe, Palestīniešu Televīzija, septembris 1, 2000).

Vai kāds paskaidrojiet, kā ir tur jābūt cieņas naids iet pa TV dienas un ārā "nav apžēlojies par ebrejiem no tā, kur viņi ir, jebkurā valstī, ... kur tu esi, tās iznīcināt ... un tiem amerikāņiem, kas ir līdzīgi tiem - un minētie neticīgos, kas stends ar viņiem " (izvilkums no sprediķis in Zayed Bin Sultan Aal Nahyan mošeja Gazā, oficiālo Palestīniešu pašpārvaldei televīzijā. "Kill ebrejiem un amerikāņi" pārraidīja PA (Palestīnas pašpārvaldes valdību) TV.

"Tagad daļa no šī pārliecība sakņojas manā pieredzē. I'ma Christian, bet mans tēvs bija no Kenijas ģimenes, kas ietver paaudžu musulmaņiem. Kā zēns es pavadīju vairākus gadus, Indonēzijā un uzklausīja aicinājumam azaan pēc pārtraukuma dawn un rudenī krēsla. Tā kā jauneklis, es strādāju Chicago kopienās, kurās ir daudz atrodama cieņa un miers musulmaņu ticību. "

Priekšsēdētājs saka, ka viņš tagad Christian bet katru lēmumu viņš nav dievišķas gudrības un itgoes pret principiem un instruēšanu par Bībeli.

Turklāt, lai uzņemt islāma pasauli ir bijušais musulmanis, tagad kristiešu ir pārkāpums pret islāmu. Tas tiek uzskatīts apostasy ar musulmaņiem.

Latvija 22:38 "Patiesi, Dievs aizsargā (no slikta) tie, kas tic: Patiesi, Dievs mīl nevis kāds, kas ir nodevējs uz ticību, vai parādīt nepateicību". Apostasy likumus musulmaņu zemēs tiem, kas pārvērš ir smagi nāvi. Kristieši sejas nāves sodu islāma valstīs. Es neesmu pārliecināts, ko priekšsēdētājs izrāda bet šis samazinājums abos virzienos. Pret islāmu, kad persona ir dzimis musulmaņu ģimenē, tas nozīmē, viena ir vēl Muislim par Mohammed teica:

"Tas, kurš maina savu islāma ticības, nogalināt viņu." (Hadith Al Buhkari tilp. 9:57) Šī komanda tiek praktizēta gandrīz visās islāma fundamentālistu valstis šodien.

.”  (Applause) "Kā students vēsturi, es arī zinu, civilizācija ir parāds pret islāmu. Tas bija Islam - vietās, piemēram, Al-Azhar - kas veikti, ņemot vērā mācības ar tik daudziem gadsimtiem, bruģējot ceļu uz Eiropas renesanses un apgaismības. Tas bija inovācija musulmaņu kopienas, - (aplausi) - tas bija inovāciju musulmaņu kopienām, kas izstrādāta kārtība algebra, mūsu magnētisks kompass un instrumenti navigācija, mūsu meistarību pildspalvas un poligrāfijas, mūsu izpratne par to, kā slimības izplatās un kā to var tikt dziedināti. Islāma kultūra mums ir devis majestātiskās arkas un augošās smailes, mūžīgas dzejas un jāaizsargā mūzika, elegants kaligrāfija un vietas mierīgas kontemplācija. Un visa vēsture, islams ir pierādījis ar vārdiem un darbiem par reliģisko iecietību un rasu vienlīdzības iespējas. "(Aplausi)

Islāms nav pavērt ceļu Eiropām renesanses, gan mūsdienu revisioned politiski korekti vēstures grāmatām var pateikt savādāk. Eiropas mākslinieki un arhitekti bija izveidot ilgi pirms islāma iebruka viņiem. Eiropām gotika Māksla un arhitektūra ir atrodamas reliģiskās un laicīgās celtnes, skulptūras un mākslu. Islāms patīk ņemt kredītus no citām civilizācijām jaunrades. Islāms iegūtās zinātniskās un matemātikas zināšanas no grieķu-Byzantian Empire, kamēr Rietumeiropā padevās ar Romas katoļu tumšs vecums. bet islāms nav iemesls apgaismību.

Iberia (Spānija) tika iekarota ar 710-716 AD ar džihāda arābu ciltis, kuru izcelsme ir ziemeļu, centrālās un dienvidu Arābijas emigrē un kolonizēja Ibērijas pussalas uzvara, pillages, paverdzināšanu, deportācijām un slepkavībām. Ebreji un kristieši bija dhimmis-baznīcu pārveidoja par mošeju, un tie nav atļauts veidot jaunas baznīcas un sinagogas vai atjaunotu vecās. Bizantijas impērijas bija pret islāma imperiālisma un tirānija vairāk nekā 800 gadus, līdz tā samazinājās līdz islāmu. Islam aizņemts Āfrika (Ēģipte), Sīriju un dominēja visu Vidusjūru. Šis Eiropas iebrukumu tika pārtraukts Francijā Charles Martel. (skatīt šo rakstu par ar Al sheikhs-Azhar Mosque,

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/22221_Islamic_Scholars-_Kill_The_Jews_But_Not_Here

No vienpadsmitā crusades ar trīspadsmito gadsimtu pastāvīgi audzina Musulmaņi apsūdzēt rietumiem no imperiālisma ... musulmaņi ignorēja savas Jihad gandrīz 1000 gadus. Lieta tāda, ka tie veiw šo par savu zemi un vēlaties to atpakaļ. Lai iegūtu padziļinātu informāciju: http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001665.php

Ļauj risināt katru no šiem ts iemaksas Islam:

Algebra - izgudrošanas algebra aizsākās jau vairāk nekā 1000 BC, ja ne agrāk (sen pirms Mohammed un islāms). Tā iet atpakaļ uz Ēģipti un pat Babylon. Algebra mēs zinām šodien izgudroja grieķi. Thales un Miletus (640-546 BC), kas saista to ar islāmu ir nepareizi informēt cilvēkus. Pirmais traktāts par Algebra, ir Diophantus, Aleksandrijas matemātiķis ap 350 AD. Vārds algebra atrodams virsrakstā darba Mahommed ben Musa al-Khwarizmi (Hovarezmi) apakšpunktu, vismaz sākumā 9. gadsimta ilm al-jebr wa'l-muqabala. Bija Persians un citi, kas bija kļuvis par daļu no progresēšanas Algebra attīstības, kā citiem, bet pateikt, tas bija jaunievedums musulmaņiem ir nepareizi.

Kompass - Izcelsme senajā Ķīnā apm. AD 270, (tie nav ķīniešu musulmaņi.)

Dažādas metodes navigācijas iesaistīto kartēšanas zvaigznes, kas izmantoja grieķi un Polynesians, tāpēc man nav ne jausmas, ko tas nozīmē. Grieķu astronoms Hipparchus 2. gadsimtā pirms mūsu ēras. cataloged vairāk nekā 850 zvaigznes uzskatīja, ka pasaule ir apaļa kā visās jomās. Atšķirībā Qu'ran kas vēsta, ka "tad, kad viņš nonāca nosaka vietu no saules, viņš konstatēja, ka noteikšanu dubļains pavasaris" (Eurovision 18:86).

Meistarību pildspalvas un kopēšana visvairāk izsekot tinte izgudroja ķīniešu filozofs, Tien-Lcheu (2.697 BC) rakstīšanas tika veikta papiruss ar niedru sagriezts punktu un tuvās un tinti. Senie ēģiptieši, grieķi, romieši un ebreju visu rakstīja uz papirusa un vēlāk uz pergamenta. Romans izveidoja niedres-pen perfekta pergamenta un tintes. Quill pildspalvas izdarīja spāņu teologs St Seviļas Isidore ir 600, un tajos dominē gandrīz 1000 gadus. Koksnes šķiedra papīra izgudroja Ķīnā 105 AD kļuva zināms, Japānā, ap 700 AD, un tika celta Spānijai ar arābiem in 711 AD papīra dzirnavas tika uzceltas beigās 14.gs. grāmatu un tad tika plaši izmantota visā Eiropā.

Ir stāsts par Ma'ād al-Mu'izz, kalifs no Ēģiptes (953 AD), vēlējās, pildspalva, kas nebūtu traipa viņa rokas vai apģērbu, un saka, ka viņš bija nodrošināti ar pildspalvu, kas notika tinti rezervuārs . Bet mēs neesam veci pa kam.

Vācu printeris Johannes Gutenberg ir kredītā izgudrošanas veida pelējums ir vidus 15.gs.

Gūtenberga Bībele tika izdrukāts Johann Gutenberg veikalu, Mainz, Vācija 1.455. Gutenberg noteikti nebija musulmanis, poligrāfijā latīņu Bībele kā viņa pirmo grāmatu. Grafīta, oglekļa forma, kuru pirmo reizi tika atklāts, netālu Keswick, Anglijā, apmēram 1.564 Seathwaite ar nezināma persona. Neilgi pēc šī pirmā zīmuļi tika veikti tajā pašā jomā. Franču ķīmiķis Nicolas Conte izstrādāta un patentētu procesu, ko izmanto, lai pencils in 1795. Viņš izmantoja maisījums māla un grafīta, kas bija iekļauti koka rāmī. 1938.gadā Ungārijas brāļi Georgs un Ladislao Biro izgudroja praktisku lodīšu pildspalvu, kaut arī daži saka, ka tas cēlies no "Galileo" laikā 17 gadsimtā. Atkal man nav ne jausmas, kur šī informācija ir atrasta.

Islāma kultūra ir devusi mums majestātiskās arkas un augošās smailes

- Šie nāca grieķi un romieši, klasiskās Grieķijas arhitektūru. Romieši no Ttus Arch, Arch of Constantine. Smailes lielākoties bija saistīts ar churches.When musulmaņi iekaroja Sīriju, 636, viņi pārņēma basilican baznīcām un izmanto tos kā mošejas. Šīs bazilikas bija triple-izliekts ēkas. Galu galā izveidoja savas atšķirīgas mākslas stiliem un padarīja to paraksta to arhitektūras, bet tie nav izgudrot tiem.

Mūzikas instrumenti nav atļauts daudzās musulmaņu tradīcijām, lai gan viens nevar attaisnot, sakot, viņi ieguldījumu dzeju un literatūru.

Katru kultūru (civilizāciju) ņēma no otra un pamatojas uz to. Romans ieguvuši mācoties no Atēnu grieķi un ņēma to tālāk, jo britu bija no itāļiem uc

Islam, kas virzījās nebija fundamentālistu (wahabbist) islams kā mēs to redzam šodien, tas bija Westernized-hellēnisma Islam.They ir veicinājusi Medicīna, balstoties uz to, ko viņi uzzināja no grieķiem. Visā tās vēstures gaitā islams arābiem, kļuva par zinātnes, arhitektūras aizbildņi un mākslas citu civilizāciju zeme, ko viņi iekaroja un okupēja. Viņi bieži vien var iekļaut to vēsturi un pieprasīt, lai citu izgudrojumus. Mūsdienu zinātne radās Rietumeiropā un Amerikā nevis islāma pasauli.

Islāms nav pierādījusi ar vārdiem un darbiem reliģisko iecietību un rasu vienlīdzību, tās vēsturi, ja vien tas bija sakarā ar vājumu. Kad Islam atklāja milzīgo naftas viņi, pateicoties rietumu civilizācija. Arābu tautām sāka uzkrāt bagātības un kontroli. Ar atjaunot Nation Izraēlas musulmaņu bija pamodies, lai jaunu džihāda vadīja viņu fundamentālistu clerics.

"Tāpat es zinu, ka islāms ir vienmēr bijusi daļa no Amerikas stāsts

”  (Applause.) . Pirmā nācija, kas atzīst, mana valsts ir Maroka. Parakstot līgumu Tripoli in 1.796, mūsu otrais prezidents John Adams, rakstīja: "Amerikas Savienotās Valstis ir pats par sevi nav raksturs ienaids pret likumiem, reliģijas vai miers un musulmaņiem. "Un kopš mūsu dibināšanas, Amerikas musulmaņi ir bagātināts Amerikas Savienotajās Valstīs. Viņi ir cīnījušies mūsu karu, tie ir izmantoti, mūsu valdība, tās bija pilsoniskās tiesības, tie ir sākuši uzņēmējdarbību, viņiem māca mūsu augstskolās, tie esam izcilām mūsu sporta arēnas, viņi ir uzvarējis Nobel Prizes, iebūvēti mūsu augstākā celtne, un lit olimpiskās lāpas. Un, kad pirmā musulmaņu American nesen tika ievēlēts kongresā, viņš ņēma zvērestu aizstāvēt mūsu Konstitūciju, izmantojot pašu Svētā Korāna, ka viens no mūsu tēvi - Thomas Jefferson - tur viņa personīgajā bibliotēkā. "(Applause.)

John Adams zināja Islam no Thomas Jefferson, kas glabā kopiju Korāns par Tuksneša Wars no 1801-1805, ļauj izlasīt, kas viņš patiesībā teica:

"In septītajā gadsimtā no mūsu ēras wandering Arābu no celma Hagar, Ēģiptes, ķemmēšanas un izcils ģēnijs ar pārdabisks enerģija fanātiķis un krāpniecisku gara krāpnieks, pasludināja sevi par kurjeru no debesīm pilnvaras , un izplatīt bēdas un murgi pār ievērojamu daļu zemes.

Pieņemot no cildens koncepcijas Mosaic tiesību doktrīna viens visvarens Dievs, viņš nesaraujami saistīts ar to pārdrošu meli, ka viņš pats bija viņa pravietis un apustulis. Pieņemšana no jauna atklāsme Jēzus, ticība un cerība nemirstīgs dzīvē, un nākotnes pelnīts sods, viņš humbled to putekļi, pielāgojot visas atlīdzības un sankciju viņa reliģijas apmierinājums par seksuālās aizraušanās.

Viņš saindēta cilvēka laime avotiem strūklaka, ko pazemojošu stāvoklis sieviešu dzimuma, un pabalstu poligāmiju, un viņš paziņoja undistinguishing un exterminating kara kā daļu no savas ticības pret visu pārējo cilvēci. Būtība viņa mācība bija vardarbība un iekāre, lai pacilāt nežēlīgās pār garīgo daļa no cilvēka dabu.

Starp šīm divām reliģijām, tādējādi kontrastē ar burtiem, karš ir vairāk nekā divpadsmit gadu simtus ir jau plosījās. Šis karš vēl nav rupji, ne tā var pārtraukt, bet extincture šī krāpšana, kas ir atļauta Providence pagarināt deģenerāciju cilvēku. Lai gan nežēlīgs un izvirtis ir aicināti sniegt motīvus cilvēku darbības, nav nekad nevar būt miers virs zemes labas gribas un pret vīriešiem. roka Ismaēla būs pret katru cilvēku, un katra cilvēka roku pret viņu. "( John Adams, 1830 John Quincy Adams, "Christianity-islāmismu." neparakstītu esejas nodarbojas ar Krievu-turku karš, un uz Grieķiju ", originally published in American Gada Register for 1827-1829 (New York, 1830), CHS. X-XIV: 267-402.

Islāms bija zināms ienaidnieks tad, bet tāpēc, ka plašsaziņas līdzekļi, nav precīzi ziņots šodien, kas ir actaully notiek visā pasaulē. Mājas www.islamistwatch

- Sliežu teroristu uzbrukumi visā pasaulē. No 2001 līdz 2009 maijs tas ir vairāk nekā 13000. Thomas Jefferson cīnījās karš ar musulmaņu pirātiem, kuri dzīvoja pēc Korāna, tāpat kā musulmaņu teroristiem darīt šodien. Tāpēc viņš to izlasīt, lai zinātu ienaidnieku. Amerikāņi bija pieņemts kā vergi no ASV tirdzniecības kuģiem. Prezidents Džefersons pieteica karu musulmaņu pirāti. Tuksneša Wars ilga no 1801-1805 un amerikāņi bija atbrīvosies beigas. Ko Jefferson zināja Adams saprot 1.827 kaut arī viņš bija dažādas lietas pateikt iepriekš. Prezidents John Quincy Adams saprot no Islāma mācībām jihad kara un dhimmitude

. Adams valstis apcerē sērija,

"... Viņš [Muhammad] pasludināja undistinguishing un exterminating kara, kā daļu no savas ticības, pret visu pārējo cilvēci ... no Korāna pamācība ir beztermiņa karš pret visiem, kas noliedz, ka Mahomet ir Dieva pravietis." ( tas viss raksts ir vērts lasījumam:

29 septembris 2004 http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=11283

Ciktāl musulmaņi ir daļa no Amerikas, kur ir šo vēsturi? Bija daži, kas bija celta uz nākamo gadu sākumā verdzības. Bet pieņemsim uzdot jautājumus, skaits: Vai islams palīdzēt projekts mūsu konstitūcijā? Vai tās palīdz bez vergiem mūsu pilsoņu karš (daudzi musulmaņi ir citās valstīs un vēl, paskaties, ko viņi dara Āfrikā). Kur Islam, kad Amerikas Savienotās Valstis palīdz cīnīties un beigās diviem pasaules kariem. Vai islāma ticības palīdzību civiltiesību kustība Amerikas Savienotajām Valstīm? Vai tās palīdz mūsu izglītības sistēmu vai zāles? Es neredzu to iesaistīšanās, un tās nevajadzētu saņemt kredītu punktus.

"Tātad man ir zināma islāma trijos kontinentos, pirms došanās uz reģionu, kurā tā pirmo reizi tika atklāts. Šis pieredzes rokasgrāmatas manu pārliecību, ka partnerattiecības starp Ameriku un islāms ir jābalstās uz to, ko islāms ir, nevis to, ko tā nav. Un es uzskatu, ka daļa no manas atbildības kā ASV prezidents, lai cīnītos pret negatīvu stereotipu par islāmu, kur vien tie parādās "(Applause.)

Tātad, kas ir islams, apskatīt savu vēsturi, jo īpaši savu viedokli pret citām reliģijām reģionu, ko tā sākās. Tas ir nepanesamība, tas ir nomācošs, un tā problēmām patiesību, kulta ticības Dievs deva man ilgi pirms Mohammed.

Nav šaubu, ka es dzirdēju Allah's Messenger (Mohammed), sakot "laikā pēdējās dienās tur parādās daži jauni muļķīgi cilvēki, kas teiks, ka labākais vārdus, bet viņu ticība nedrīkst pārsniegt to detaļu (ti, tie atstās ticība) un iziet no savu reliģiju, kā bulta iet no spēles. Tātad, kur atrast tos nogalināt tos, tam, kurš nogalina tos ir apbalvot par Day of Resurrection

"(Bukhari tilpums 9, no.64) Skatīt-Citāti no Qur'an un Hadith Daudzi nezina, ka prezidenta ēdamais ir vajadzīga baznīca ir remontdarbus Ēģiptē, ja priekšsēdētājs runāja.

Mums ir prezidents, kurš paziņoja, viņš tagad padara viņa misiju, lai mainītu cilvēku prātos par reliģiju islāmu. Vai tas, ko prezidents ir darīt, cīnīties pret stereotipiem par reliģiju? Vai tas, kas viņš tika ievēlēts par? Kā par cīnās par mūsu visu tiesības, tepat Amerikā un ārzemēs, regulāri America ko mūsu konstitūcija autori gribēja mūs būt.

"Amerikas Savienotās Valstis ir bijis viens no lielākajiem avotiem panākumiem, pasaule ir jebkad ir zināms. Mēs dzimuši no revolūcija pret impērija. Mums bija pamatā ir ideāls, ka visi ir radīti vienlīdzīgi, un mēs esam shed asins un cīnījās par gadsimtu piešķirt nozīmi šiem vārdiem - mūsu robežām un visā pasaulē. Mēs esam veidota ar visām kultūrām, kas no visām beigām Zemes, un kas nodarbojas ar vienkāršu koncepciju: E pluribus unum - "No daudziem viens. "

Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one's religion.  That is why there is a mosque in every state in our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That's why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.  (Applause.)

“Out of many, one”

– out of many people we are one people- Americans, under the constitution. We are not shaped by every culture but we accept them and allow them to be intergrated into the fabric of our socienty. Unfortunately one cannot find this same example in Muslim countries. Instead when Islam becomes strengthened or a majority, like in England, they want to implement their own Sharia law. That's how they respect other cultures.Putting aside all the platitudes, lets see the same freedom of religion to others in any of the muslim states, how about one of them? This is what the president speaks about women, protecting their right to wear the hijab

as a women's right in America. What about having the choice of not wearing hijab in a Muslim world. He completely looked the other way on the basic human rights and oppression of women. Women can't speak to a man that's not her husband. That a woman is denied an education, unable to vote or drive a car in Saudi Arabia, the birth place of Islam. Women are raped, abused, the recipient of honor killings, being stoned, in the name of this royal religion in numerous Muslim countries. “So let there be no doubt: Islam is a part of America.  And I believe that America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or station in life, all of us share common aspirations — to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God.  These things we share.  This is the hope of all humanity.

Of course, recognizing our common humanity is only the beginning of our task.

Words alone cannot meet the needs of our people.  These needs will be met only if we act boldly in the years ahead; and if we understand that the challenges we face are shared, and our failure to meet them will hurt us all. For human history has often been a record of nations and tribes — and, yes, religions — subjugating one another in pursuit of their own interests.  Yet in this new age, such attitudes are self-defeating.

.  So whatever we think of the past, we must not be prisoners to it. Our problems must be dealt with through partnership ; our progress must be shared.  (Applause.) In Ankara, I made clear that America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam. Ņemot vērā mūsu atkarība pasaulē, jebkurā pasaules kārtību, kas paaugstina viena nācija vai cilvēku grupu nekā citas neizbēgami bankrotē. Tātad, kāds mēs domājam par pagātni, mēs nedrīkstam būt ieslodzītos uz tā. Mūsu problēmas ir jārisina, izmantojot partnerattiecības; Mūsu progress ir dalīta. (Applause.) Ankarā, es skaidrs, ka Amerika nav - un nekad nebūs - pēc kara ar islāmu.

(Applause.) Mēs tomēr būs nerimstoši konfrontēt vardarbīgas ekstrēmistiem, kas rada nopietnu draudu mūsu drošībai, - tāpēc mēs noraidām pašu, ka cilvēki visu ticību noraidīt: nogalināšanu nevainīgu vīriešu, sieviešu un bērnu. Un tas ir mans pirmais pienākums kā priekšsēdētājs, lai aizsargātu amerikāņu tautu. "Tie ir daži no viņa visvairāk vērtē vārdiem, savstarpēja atkarība? Līdzīgi kā viņš vēlas, lai mēs relinguish savu suverenitāti apvienot ar visiem. Ne visām valstīm ir radīti vienlīdzīgi. Kāpēc Amerikā bija svētījis un panākts progress, bet citas nav. Tā ir lieta ko sauc par brīvības, mēs esam par labajā pusē pret ļaunumu, bet svārsts ir šūpošanos away.

Kas jauns vecums? Kas viņam rada viņa administrācija!

Islam daļa of America? Prezidents Obama teica par viņa ceļojumu tītara "vienu lielu stiprās ASV" ir tas, ka tā neuzskata sevi "kristiešu valsts vai ebreju tautas vai musulmaņu tauta. Mēs sevi uzskatām valsts pilsoņu, kuri ir saistoši ideālu un vērtību kopas. Es domāju, ka mūsdienu Turcija tika dibināta ar līdzīgu principu kopumu. "

Viņš arī norādīja: "Mēs izteikt mūsu dziļās atzinību par islāma ticību, kura ir izdarījusi daudz vairāk nekā gadsimtu veidot pasaulē, arī manā valstī." Šķiet, ikvienam, kurš joprojām ir spējīgs domāt redz konsekvence viņa paziņojumus pārsūdzēt islāma tautām, jo mūsu labdariem.

Obama teica Francijas TV "Un viens no punktiem Es gribu, lai ir, ir tas, ka ja jūs tiešām ņēma skaits musulmaņu amerikāņi, mēs viens no lielākajiem musulmaņu valstīm pasaulē," Mr 1 jūnijs 2009 intervijā ar Canal Plus

Obama turpina mīkstināt savu nostāju par islāmu, kas ir tieši saskan ar to, ko islāma pasaule vēlas, lai notiktu. Iepazīstinot America jo pat neliela musulmaņu valsts nav precīza. Mēs vismaz kā citas valstis, no 60 visvairāk apdzīvotā musulmaņu valstis, ASV rindās 58..

1.104.000 novērtējums 2001

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions

2.4 million (2007)

Pew Research Center

. World Factbook's count, Muslims in the United States make up about .6 percent of the population. That's around 1.8 million. We would need near 30 million mMuslims in America to be a large Muslim country. Besides this inaccuracy, we would have a mass exodus of people if this were true.And whom are the violent extremeist of? Islam . We may not think we are at war with a religion, but Islam is at war with Israel, America, and the world. While we refuse to recognize the war we are in, the Muslims have no such tolerance- they are at war with us and use every means possible. we are top priority now, take down America and other freedom loving countries will follow.

At the same time he says this everything continues “ Qur'an forbade taking Jews and Christians as friends, and that applies to every Jew and Christian, with no consideration as to whether they are at war with Islam or not.” (p. 37 Deen al-Haqq (The True Religion), authored in Arabic by Abdul-Rahman Ben Hamad Al-Omer.  Printed by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs and Endowments, Riyadh, and paid for by the foundation of Ibrahim ibn Abdul-Aziz Al-Brahim, King Fahd's father-in-law.  Distributed by in the US by IIASA)

How can one say we will never be at war with Islam, does he know the future? If America backs away from fighting Terrorism (which unanimously comes from Islam) then it will not stop, nor diminish, it will increase. Why: Because of the way Muslims think. Islam respects strength, appeasement is a sign of weakness. All faiths do not reject killing innocents. The problem — Islam does not believe anyone who is not a Muslim is innocent. Its all through the Qu'ran.

"Vairāk nekā pirms septiņiem gadiem, Amerikas Savienotās Valstis mērķi al Qaida un Taliban, ar plašu starptautisku atbalstu. Mēs negāja pēc izvēles; devāmies dēļ nepieciešamību. I'm aware that there's still some who would question or even justify the events of 9/11.  But let us be clear: Al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people on that day.  The victims were innocent men, women and children from America and many other nations who had done nothing to harm anybody.  And yet al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people, claimed credit for the attack, and even now states their determination to kill on a massive scale.  They have affiliates in many countries and are trying to expand their reach .  These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with.

'… I ndeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists. They have killed in many countries.  They have killed people of different faiths — but more than any other, they have killed Muslims .  Their actions are irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, and with Islam. The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent is as — it is as if he has killed all mankind.  (Applause.)  And the Holy Koran also says whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.  (Applause.)  The enduring faith of over a billion people is so much bigger than the narrow hatred of a few. Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism — it is an important part of promoting peace.”

Al Qaeda is only the portion of the enemy that succeeded, We are not fighting an enemy without a face. Islam has always fought among themselves, long before they made the west their common enemy. If they see there own people as friends with their enemy they consider them the enemy as well.

And what of the Qu'rans quote? Whoever kills an innocent…

5:35Yusuf Ali: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land .” The command is applied to “Children of Israel” not to Muslims. It is not about of bringing together people with differences. The verse does not use the word “innocent” anywhere (in any translations of the verse), besides the Muslims do not look at others as innocent. So this is intentionally portioned out to make the religion of Islam look like it is for justice when it is accusing Israel – for the next verse states “ The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle”

Even if we were to accept this interpretation, Mohammed contradicted this verse by later saying he has been ordered by God to fight all mankind until they accept me as the prophet.

Sura 17:33 “Nor take life – which God has made sacred – except for just cause .”

We must know how they interpret these verses, not what they want us to think they mean. To them fighting the Jihad is just cause for Islam to be the dominant religion.

“And finally, just as America can never tolerate violence by extremists, we must never alter or forget our principles. Nine-eleven was an enormous trauma to our country.  The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our traditions and our ideals .  We are taking concrete actions to change course.  I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year.  (Applause.)

So America will defend itself, respectful of the sovereignty of nations and the rule of law.  And we will do so in partnership with Muslim communities which are also threatened. The sooner the extremists are isolated and

unwelcome in Muslim communities, the sooner we will all be safe r.” How exactly did we act contrary to our ideals? Iraq was not a war of choice. Saddam was fully non compliant with the UN sanctions. He made it necessary for us to go in, and we did not go in alone, it was approved with other nations support. He forgot to mention the sacrifice we have done- freeing Iraq from the tyrannical rule of an Islamic dictator who in 1991 was sending missiles over in Israel like flowers on mothers day. What of all our valiant men that died to set the Muslim people free.

What is considered torture — Water boarding, which was limited to only 3 men out of thousands, men who knew about future attacks. This has nothing to do with the Guantanamo prison. When the Weegers (Islamic terrorists from china) were released from Guantanamo they said it was far better than living in China where they are from.

Torture it is already illegal and should not be related to Guantanamo in the same sentence. What about the torture of a far greater magnitude that daily occurs by Islam to victims that are not terrorists. Muslims chop off the heads of those who are reporters and torture those who are not soldiers. And what of the Muslim genocide and ethnic cleansing in Darfur, how about

addressing the plight of Christians who convert from Islam and are killed.Isolating the extremists is not the answer because they will always produce more until these people are educated to have a different view of the world. That means a religious change must occur for over a billion people.

America's strong bonds with Israel are well known.  This bond is unbreakable .  It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied .

Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust.  Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed — more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today.  Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful . Threatening Israel with destruction — or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews — is deeply wrong , and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.”

On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people — Muslims and Christians — have suffered in pursuit of a homeland .  For more than 60 years they've endured the pain of dislocation.  Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead.  They endure the daily humiliations — large and small — that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt:  The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable.  And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own .” (Applause.)

Israels homeland was not born out of the holocaust but given back to them as a result of the Holocaust. God gave Israel this land long before the word Palestinian was ever invented or used as a political pawn, before any Muslim was following Mohammed there was Israel.

Obama comes off as a freind of Israel but this is hardly the case in what he is proposing to do.

It is the Arab states that have used the Palestinians for their cause of hating Israel.

Poll on what Israel thinks-

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184872947&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

There is no moral equivance to Jews being killed by Nazi torture in a Holocaust and the Palestinians conflict with Israel over the years. It is Israel being threatened today. Israel is not treating those in the Gaza like Hitler treated the Jews. To equate this Palestinian travesty (that they have made and continue upon themselves) is clearly misrepresenting the actual horror that happened to the Jews. It diminishes what actually took place and is inciting a justification of hatred for Israel, as there was for Hitler. There is no moral equivalence here. This is using the Hegalian dialectic in a divide and conquer mode.

Are Palestinian Christians actually asking for a homeland? They would know what the Bible says and would be for Israel, not dividing the land. Islam does not believe this but Christians do. The Palestinian refugee problem, cannot be blamed on the creation of the Jewish state. It is the result of the Arab states declaring war on Israel and then keeping the Palestinians as political pawns to further their cause against Israel. This war and strategy has been planned for years and it is now unfolding. “Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations” (Yasser Arafat (El Mundo, Caracas, Venezuela, Feb. 11, 1980).The problem is the Palestinian position that will not recognize Israel despite her history. Ahmed Qurei, the Palestinian Authority official leading all peace talks with the Jewish state, made the controversial statements in a small media briefing Nov.6 .2008 -The Jewish Temples never existed and Israel has been working to “invent” a Jewish historical connection to Jerusalem, the chief Palestinian negotiator asserted. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80382

Tom Brokaw in his recent interview asked this question to President Obama after his visit to the Nazi concentration camp at Buchenwald: “ What can the Israelis learn from your visit to Buchenwald and what should they be thinking about their treatment of Palestinians ?”

Obama responded: “ Well, look, there's no equivalency here .” How is it when he speaks to Muslims there is and to America there isn't?

For decades then, there has been a stalemate:  two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive.  It's easy to point fingers — for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond.  But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.  (Applause.)

That is in Israel's interest, Palestine's interest, America's interest, and the world's interest.  And that is why I intend to personally pursue this outcome with all the patience and dedication that the task requires .  (Applause.)  The obligations — the obligations that the parties have agreed to under the road map are clear.  For peace to come, it is time for them — and all of us — to live up to our responsibilities. Palestinians must abandon violence.  Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and it does not succeed.

For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation.  But it was not violence that won full and equal rights.  It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America's founding..”.

Now is the time for Palestinians to focus on what they can build.  The Palestinian Authority must develop its capacity to govern, with institutions that serve the needs of its people. Hamas does have support among some Palestinians, but they also have to recognize they have responsibilities.  To play a role in fulfilling Palestinian aspirations, to unify the Palestinian people, Hamas must put an end to violence, recognize past agreements, recognize Israel's right to exist .

At the same time, Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel's right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine's.  The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.  (Applause.)  This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace. It is time for these settlements to stop. “ (Applause.)

Its good that he has said for the Palestinians to stop the violence but they are not resisting, they are the aggressors. There was no displacement because of Israel, this is a false argument that has been circulating and used to make Israel look like occupiers of their land.

The president of America has now reversed the administrations policy reinforcing the Arabs view, this can only create a climate of hostility against Israel by siding with the Palestinians who have been proven wrong again and again. The wars were invasions of the Arab states against Israel and they lost their land from it. Since when do we twist a countries arm to give up land they won in war of a failed invasion?

If the Arabs won would we be saying to give Israel back her land, I think not.Obama's statement is the strongest statement the US Government has ever taken toward Israel. To tell Israel they cannot build on their own land simply erases what he said about imposing our views on others. He told the G-20 summit –Above all, there will be no more “dictating” to other countries. We should “forge partnerships as opposed to simply dictating solutions.” It appears this applies to everyone but to Israel.

We need to understand not just the political but spiritual implications of this policy. There is over thousands of years of Jewish living in this land, since 1400 BC The propaganda from the Arabs is that the two temples never existed there is no Jewish history in the land of Israel. After the Roman destruction of the Temple in 70 AD many Jews continued to live in Jerusalem and have outnumbered Muslim Arabs.

Let's bring some clarity to what is being said here. Hamas, which means “zeal” in Arabic and is also the acronym for “Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya” or Islamic Resistance Movement, had its beginnings in 1967 as a wing of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. (The Hebrew word chamas means violence, which is a perfect fit).

Hamas published its official charter in 1988 calling for the creation of an Islamic Waqf in Palestine and the destruction of Israel. Article 8, … the slogan of the Islamic Resistance Movement – Hamas who is now in charge of the Palestinians: Article 28 targets all Jews: “ Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Muslim people: 'May the cowards never sleep .'” The Charter in its preface quotes Hassan al-Banna, founder of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, as saying: “ Israel will exist and continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it .”-

http://www.letusreason.org/Islam21.htm

We already have an example of their peace in the Middle-east region- Israel. Every time they give away land for peace they receive Islamic love in the form of rockets and suicide bombers. Israel is constantly exercising restraint. The President is forcing Israel to continue to make concessions in Judea and Samaria and expect a different result.

When Israel pulled out of Gaza, Hamas took over and did not improve their relations, it brought more war. If Israel does what our administration wants them to, withdraw from Judea and Samaria we can expect a continued escalation.Hamas' statement by Yasser Ghalban (June 22, 2006 pronouncement), a Hamas terrorist leader makes clear how, as with Hizbollah, the liquidation of Jews in Israel by jihad is linked to Hamas' own universal ambitions: “The Jihad for Allah… is the way of Truth and the way for Salvation and the way which will lead us to crush the Jews and expel them from our country Palestine. Just as the Jews ran from Gaza, the Americans will run from Iraq and Afghanistan and the Russians will run from Chechnya, and the Indian will run from Kashmir” (Apocalyptic Muslim Jew Hatred FrontPageMagazine.com July 18, 2006 By Andrew G. Bostom)

How can there be trust when thousands parade in Gaza with signs saying “We worship Allah by killing Jews” death to Israel.
And Israel must also live up to its obligation to ensure that Palestinians can live and work and develop their society.  Just as it devastates Palestinian families, the continuing humanitarian crisis in Gaza does not serve Israel's security ; neither does the continuing lack of opportunity in the West Bank. Progress in the daily lives of the Palestinian people must be a critical part of a road to peace, and Israel must take concrete steps to enable such progress.

And finally, the Arab states must recognize that the Arab Peace Initiative was an important beginning, but not the end of their responsibilities. The Arab-Israeli conflict should no longer be used to distract the people of Arab nations from other problems. Instead, it must be a cause for action to help the Palestinian people develop the institutions that will sustain their state, to recognize Israel's legitimacy, and to choose progress over a self-defeating focus on the past.

America will align our policies with those who pursue peace, and we will say in public what we say in private to Israelis and Palestinians and Arabs.  (Applause.) We cannot impose peace.  But privately, many Muslims recognize that Israel will not go away .  Likewise, many Israelis recognize the need for a Palestinian state.  It is time for us to act on what everyone knows to be true.”

Israel is a narrow sliver of land among the Islamic empire. It is only 9 miles wide at its narrowest point yet Israel has not rejected a Palestinian state, the Palestinians have. They have rejected Israel's compromise over and over. Israel has compromised greatly for peace. Clinton gave 95% of what Arafat asked and he still rejected the proposal made. December 2008 Olmert offered even more and Abbas rejected his offer. Kāpēc? Because they do not want Israel in their region . They only have themselves and their leaders to blame. They want it all and because of this their people continue to suffer.

“Too many tears have been shed.  Too much blood has been shed.  All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them , joined in prayer .  (Applause.)

Why is it that Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam can be a country strictly of Islam without Jews and Christians, but Israel, a country that God gave to the Jews is supposed to be open for Islam, divided and dictated by our foreign policy?

This vision of peace and ecumenical unity is the spirit of the age and is actually unapproved of God, but will be approved by the false Messiah in the tribulation.

'peace be upon them” as Muslims say is offensive to Jews and Christians who deny Mohammed as a prophet equal to Moses or Jesus.

the story of Isra is of importance to understand the message that obama is sending.

Found in chapter 17 of the Qu'ran and in the Hadith. The angel Gabriel brought Mohammed from the Kaaba in Mecca by a winged steed named “Buraq” (a beast resembling a white horse with two huge wings , hmm), to the “furthest mosque” from Mecca; the Qu'ran doesn't state the location, Muslims of course say it is Jerusalem even though it is not mentioned once in the Qu'ran. He also leads Moses and Jesus in prayer. Muslims see Mohammad, Jesus and Moses praying because to them all three are Muslim. Of course there are other stories like this about when Jesus' returns he destroys the churches and leads people in muslim prayers.By telling this story to a Muslim audience

Obama is reinforcing the Muslims claim to Jerusalem is legit, their prophet is true. But this is not a holy land of three faiths but of one- Judaism. Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism, with the Jewish Messiah. It has a direct connection to the Faith started by God in Abraham, Islam does not. In fact Islam says Abraham was a Muslim. God intended Jerusalem to be a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims! Not according to Mohammed who said, “The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them.” (Mishkat Al Masabih Sh.M. Ashraf pp.147, 721, 810-11, 1130)

In the Hadith Abu Hurayah reported the messenger of Allah as saying: The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him. The only exception will be the box-thorn for it is one of the trees of the Jews. (Sahih of Muslim, quoted by Israel and the Prophecies of Al Quran by Ali Akbar, Bismi Publishers 1992, p.44)

These horrendous statements cannot be ignored.

Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance .  We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition.  I saw it firsthand as a child in Indonesia, where devout Christians worshiped freely in an overwhelmingly Muslim country.  That is the spirit we need today.  People in every country should be free to choose and live their faith based upon the persuasion of the mind and the heart and the soul.  This tolerance is essential for religion to thrive, but it's being challenged in many different ways.

Among some Muslims, there's a disturbing tendency to measure one's own faith by the rejection of somebody else's faith. The richness of religious diversity must be upheld — whether it is for Maronites in Lebanon or the Copts in Egypt.  (Applause.)  And if we are being honest, fault lines must be closed among Muslims, as well, as the divisions between Sunni and Shia have led to tragic violence, particularly in Iraq.”

Mohammed said of himself:  “ I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah ” (Al Bukhari vol. 4:196) Does this sound like tolerance? Who ordered Mohammed? Allah of course. The only time they are tolerant is when they are not the stronger of the two parties and have to wait. The Qu'ran are filled with quotes like Sura 9:5 “kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush” They cannot change their own “holy book” so how can this be resolved?

“Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together.  We must always examine the ways in which we protect it. For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation.  That's why I'm committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.

Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit — for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear .  We can't disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

In fact, faith should bring us together.  And that's why we're forging service projects in America to bring together Christians, Muslims, and Jews. That's why we welcome efforts like Saudi Arabian King Abdullah's interfaith dialogue and Turkey's leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations .  Around the world, we can turn dialogue into interfaith service, so bridges between peoples lead to action — whether it is combating malaria in Africa, or providing relief after a natural disaster.

The sixth issue — the sixth issue that I want to address is women's rights.  (Applause.)  I know –- I know — and you can tell from this audience, that there is a healthy debate about this issue. I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality. (Applause.)  And it is no coincidence that countries where women are well educated are far more likely to be prosperous.

Now, let me be clear:  Issues of women's equality are by no means simply an issue for Islam. In Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, we've seen Muslim-majority countries elect a woman to lead . Meanwhile, the struggle for women's equality continues in many aspects of American life, and in countries around the world.

I am convinced that our daughters can contribute just as much to society as our sons.  (Applause.)  Our common prosperity will be advanced by allowing all humanity — men and women — to reach their full potential.  I do not believe that women must make the same choices as men in order to be equal, and I respect those women who choose to live their lives in traditional roles. But it should be their choice.  And that is why the United States will partner with any Muslim-majority country to support expanded literacy for girls, and to help young women pursue employment through micro-financing that helps people live their dreams.”  (Applause.)

It was made difficult because some mosques were found to contribute to terrorist organizations and we needed regulation, he now wanst to soften our policy they can now have no restrictions on what was illegal.

Obama finds ownership with Islam by saying “our daughters”, “our sons”. A freudian slip? This is concerning.

Interfaith cooperation is not the answer for those who are true to their faith. We can have tolerance for a religion without participating with them, they cannot.

I will certainly agree with his asertive statements on women, however we saw what happened to Benazir Bhutto who ran for president in Pakistan, she was assassinated. No I do see the same struggle in other countries. Isabel Peron of Argentina was the world's first woman president in 1974. Golda Meir was prime minister of Israel – 1969. Megawati Sukarnoputri, president of Indonesia – 2001. Sirimavo Bandaranaike is first elected woman prime minister of the democratic socialist republic of Sri Lanka. But there is no comparison to the denial of womens rights in the Muslim countries. Insinuating that America struggles with equality of women like Islam has no comparison. Women's rights in Islam have and still are oppressive.

He ends with-

“We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written.

The Holy Koran tells us:  “O mankind!  We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.”

The Talmud tells us:  “The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace.” The Holy Bible tells us:  “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.”  (Applause.) The people of the world can live together in peace.  We know that is God's vision. Now that must be our work here on Earth. Thank you.  And may God's peace be upon you.  Thank you very much.  Thank you

.  (Applause.) This is not what is meant in the Bible by peacemakers, it would be those who bring the gospel of peace, which Islam wholeheartedly rejects and does not allow in their countries. There is no peace except by the one who died on the cross. Obama wants all religions to be as one- e puribus unum. Which happens to be predicted in the Bible, and is not a good thing.

This speech is like singing John Lennons song: “all we are saying- is give peace a chance” Consider the spiritual implications of what is being spoken from Egypt. This is not offering an olive branch but a whole olive tree to Islam.

The purpose of his speech was to turn a new page in US relations to Muslims- the question is whether it was turned forward or backward. As Rich Lowry editor at National Review concluded: “Fundamentally, Obama's goal was to tell the Muslim world, 'We respect and value you, your religion and your civilization, and only ask that you don't hate us and murder us in return.'”

The outcome: The American (government) media may be waiting to see the affect of his speech in Cairo but with Ahmedinejab announced the winner of the stacked elections in Iran it sends a strong message of rejection.

Iran is controlled by Shia Mullahs who put in their own president despite the elections. Ahmedinejad is determined to acquire nuclear. Many Muslim states are concerned about this, as are the youth in Iran. Maybe this is what our president should be talking about instead of giving them respect and showing no resistance to their pursuit for destruction of Israel. To say his foreign policy is weak would be an understatement. Iran is listed as a terrorist sponsoring country for 30 years, yet he is unable to speak up and encourage change unless he is forced to. Why does he take a stronger stand with N. Korea and not Iran? One word- Islam, he is an Islam friendly president. Now he has reversed his statement on what is taking place in Iran. What is ironic is that America is being taken down the same road they want to be free of. It can mean a revolution in Iran or they can be crushed by their military. We have yet to see how this will turn out from all the protests.

Heres the fruit from what Obama spoke

' Under the past administration, there was a feeling that the Islamic world was a group of terrorists, Islam was hated and Muslims should be watched, and that the previous administration was scared of any Muslim,” Mubarak said.

But Obama came and said we will not fight Muslims and Islam. He is a sympathetic man, and says the United States will not fight Islam because Islam is a heavenly religion ,” he told state television ” ( Reuters June11,09 Egypt's Mubarak says Obama has new approach to Islam)

Why is Obama giving respect to those that do not deserve it? President Obama is the Neville Chamberlain of our day and he will eventually reap the same results. Consider the words of Churchill who came to Englands rescue after Chamberlain's tremendous blunder, what was his opinion on Islam. “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
(Winston Churchill, The River War, 1st edition, Vol. 2, pp. 248-250 (London, Green &Co, 1899).

These words may yet come to haunt us.

So where is this all headed? Get your prayer rug while they are cheap and a compass, to know which way Mecca is.

The president of America speaking to a Muslim audience makes an appeal to their history of tolerance, a people that calls Jews and the nation of Israel; monkeys and pigs!  Using Sura 2:65; 5:60 its bad enough that it is applied to those who broke the Sabbath but the Mullahs apply it to all Jewish people .

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54437,00.html

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=sr&ID=SR01102

A call for their destruction and America is found in the Muslim media, taught in far too many Islamic schools and mosques. Can a speech from an American president change all of this? Can it change any of it? Especially one like he spoke. Even if it changed a few individuals, they would have to be important ones to lead a reformation of ideas to the Muslim people. The only thing that has power to change their minds is Jesus Christ, not the prophet Jesus that they admire but the savior Jesus-the Jewish Messiah. I want to end on a hopeful note, there are thousands of Muslims coming to recognize Jesus as Lord and making invigorating efforts to reach their people. Our part is to pray that God gives them strength.

For a summary of his speech on audio - http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/06/obamas-lies-about-holy-koran.html

Converted Muslims know how damaging this speech was and are speaking out (listen to Jay Sekulow's [ACLJ] interview with a former Muslim) http://www.aclj.org/OnTheRadio/Archive.aspx#

Watch-

Out of Egypt – A Christian Analysis of President Obama's Speech by Pastor Bill Randles

Two books I highly recommend, one on the past history of Islam the other on our day.

'Islam in the light of history” by Dr.Rafat Amari and “Judgment day, Islam, Israel and the nations” by Dave Hunt

new article – Hawaii says Aloha to Islam day – Legislature makes decision to honor Islam.