Gordon Pettie and The Barlow Clowes Scam

by sarahacott
May 20,  2015

Did you know that Gordon Pettie – Chariman of the Revelation Foundation, was involved in a very serious investment scam, which resulted in many Christians and even churches losing substantial sums of money?

Most of us have at some point been involved in something that is questionable (for me it’s helping set up Revelation TV), but Mr Pettie seems to have a pattern. At present Revelation TV is being investigated by the Charity Commission for concerns that it is being used for private advantage. For more details on this please see my post below for my insider info

https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/why-i-think-revelation-tv-is-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commission/

The reason I feel to highlight Gordon Pettie is that his involvement in the Barlow Clowes investment scam resulted in him losing his investment licence. This is particularly serious when considering the below…

“The Financial Intermediaries, Managers and Brokers’ Regulatory Association has undertaken its own investigations and recommended that disciplinary action be taken against 19 of its members involved with the case, of which three have been suspended. Those suspended are the Investments and Pensions Advisory Service Ltd. and D. C. Wilson and Gordon Pettie Advisory Services. The Investments and Pensions Advisory Service is in liquidation following a winding up petition by the Securities and Investments board and D. C. Wilson has gone into voluntary liquidation.”

Taken from… http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1989/mar/15/barlow-clowes

The thing that concerns me is that disciplinary action was recommended against 19 involved, but only 3 were suspended. Gordon then actually lost his investment licence!

For further details of this see http://www.gordonpettie.n.nu/

The thing is… you don’t lose your investment licence for no reason, do you?

The other thing that should be noted is how many companies Gordon has been involved in. Some of them are verifiable such as The Joseph Storehouse Trust, which having personally met Barry and Batya Segal, I don’t question as a charity. However, we know that at least one was involved in a scam, two if you include Revelation TV, which has been actively misleading its viewers regarding finances and is now the subject of a statutory inquiry.

Mr Pettie (full name – Ian Gordon Pettie) holds 12 appointments at 8 active companies, has resigned from 29 companies and held 21 appointments at 14 dissolved companies. Ian began their first appointment at the age of 42. Their longest current appointment spans 20 years and 5 months at GENESIS DEVELOPMENTS (MACCLESFIELD) LTD.

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Ian holds a current appointment equals £964,966, with a combined total current assets value of £2,036,598 and total current liabilities of £290,672. Roles associated with Ian Pettie within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary

Read more at: http://companycheck.co.uk/director/910127680

Howard Conder in an email to everyone@revelationtv.com made clear that Gordon Pettie was the one who suggested that he set up the Foundation. He also gave indication that Gordon set up the entire financial infrastructure, which is now the subject of an investigation by the Charity Commission.

I don’t think I ever met Gordon Pettie, he joined the station a few weeks after I left, but his email responses regarding Howards lies and editing of a confidential report were very telling of his comfort levels with the situation. All he did was deny any responsibility to do anything. Howard won’t even read my emails and it’s the responsibility of the trustees to hold people to account.

They have all failed.

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This kind of public scandal openly discrediting The Body the Body of Christ and tarnishing its message of salvation and righteousness and bringing The Name of The Lord into high profile disrepute and shame is exactly why in protest I and some others quit Revelation TV in open disgust. Sadly, a few others knowing it was wrong sold out and compromised for ’10 shekels of silver and a shirt remained, evening appearing on it since (and not only in re-runs). Thank God we left before the Charities Commission and media got a hold of it. Continue reading

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APOSTATE PASTOR RICK WARREN AND ELTON JOHN HOLD HANDS IN CONGRESS, JOKE ABOUT KISSING EACH OTHER

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May 9, 2015

The kiss heard round the world?

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9,10 (KJV) Continue reading

Moriel Missions South Africa May 2015

PO BOX 793  Swellendam 6740, Western Cape, South Africa

Email: moriel.david@gmail.com Cell: 0823739297

Web site http://www.morielmissions.org.za/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MorielMissions

Dear friends and family.

Its been a busy year so far with a preaching trip to the UK in February/March and an opportunity to catch up with family and friends. Peoples love, generosity and support were overwhelming and it was good to see good attendances at the various fellowships.

Other teaching engagements have been a trip to Bread of life ministries where my friend David Nathan is Pastor where I taught on ‘God Disciplines those whom He loves’. I have produced the transcript as a teaching at the end of this Newsletter.

Then I was asked to do a conference with David Nathan and Bill Randles ar the Carmel center in George, Western cape. The theme of the conference was “The Bridegroom Comes”. There was some excellent teaching and a challenging word in season to the Bride of Christ. I looked at it from the perspective of Song of Songs and the typology of the Bride and Groom and Christ and His Church. I will put out the transcript at a later date but if you do want to here some good teaching from the conference please contact us.

The Children continue to grow and keep well despite their various health challenges. The farm side of things keeps them busy as we prepare for the onset of winter. This includes the not so glamorous things like collecting and spreading horse muck for the growing season ahead.

Last month our first holiday together in almost two years. We went for a week in Hermanus and the guys had a great time despite the power outages.

CD4 levels and viral loads are also good. N’tombi though still has problems with her joints in her shoulders and hands. As you can imagine this can be uncomfortable as she does her riding lessons. We would love to send her to riding camp in July and are looking for a sponsor for her. At the camp she would learn more skills aimed at helping her with a career in stable management. The camp will cost about $200 if anyone would like to help.

Johannes has begun oil painting classes. He wants to be able to sell some if anyone is interested I will send you some photographs of his work.

The next budgetary investment is beds. We just bought one now from a donation. They are about $150 each for your prayerful consideration.

Lyn is a real soldier. She will have her work cut out for her because I go into hospital on the 5th May for foot reconstruction. Seems when I was running for a train in October I broke my foot in na couple of places. Anyway the leg swelled and I am in a lot of pain. It was only spotted when I went for further xrays, MRI and cat scan. I will have to keep off my foot for 6 weeks then a Moon Boot till its healed in about 4 months. Pray for all our patience.

The wider family is growing well. Our youngest son and his wife Erin are expecting their second child in September. On top of this they move house in the coming week so please keep them in your prayers.

Anthony is roughly half way through his Masters program and is officially a Tutor at KEDS for their knowing your bible module. I am really pleased at how he is growing in this area.

Thank you once again for your love and support. I hope to be visiting the UK in Oct/Nov if you would like me to share at your fellowship.

One last prayer request. Out of the four vehicles we have access to, three are broken down. As you can imagine keeping these necessary vehicles is crucial to the mission and also expensive. Please remember us in your prayers.

Contacts

You can contact me directly or you may contact the following people.

South Africa, David Royle moriel.david@gmail.com

UK Joanne Drinkwater jo.drink@ntlworld.com

USA David Lister morieldavid@yahoo.com

Australia and New Zealand, Marg Godwin moriel@vic.australis.com.au

God Disciplines those whom He Loves

Hebrews 12 

1: Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, [a]fixing our eyes on Jesus, the [b]author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Himendured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary [c]and lose heart.

You have not yet resisted [d]to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
For those whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He scourges every son whom He receives.”

It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Furthermore, we had [e]earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of[f]spirits, and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness.11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

12 Therefore, [g]strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.

One of the distinguishing marks of practically all of mankind is our habit of passing the book, passing the responsibility onto other people.

It all started in Genesis with Adam and Eve when Adam tried to pass his accountability on to Eve asnd eventually God Himself. Like Adam, when problems come along, when things go wrong we tend to look for someone to blame.

In fact when things are really bad God is certainly the one we blame for taking us through this, that or the other. And do you know what? Sometimes it is Gods fault, ‘because God disciplines those whom He loves”.

Think about that for moment. Maybe your here and even today have begun to go through a time of great anxiety. A torrid time, stress upon stress, anxiety upon anxiety and your thinking ‘why is all this happening to me?’ And so you put it down to;

  • Bad luck – man I have been so unlucky this year nothings going right.
  • Coincidence  – what are the odds of all these things happening at once?
  • Persecution – my family, my friends, my work mates have all got it in for me.
  • Stupidity – I cannot believe how stupid the situation is.
  • God – what did I ever do to deserve this from Him?

But sometimes do we ever consider thatour present experiences may be happening because there are some deep awesome truths to be learnt in our lives and that God is dealing with us because he loves us and God disciplines those whom He loves.

Look if we are silly enough to run our cars all year without checking the oil and the engine over heats and seizes up – who is to blame?

If you set off on a journey across the Karoo and you run out of fuel half way – whos to blame?

If you go through life without any form of spiritual check up and power for the journey – whos to blame? Your parents, your spouse may discipline you for the car but God disciplines those whom He loves as well.

So lets look at the portion of scripture from Hebrews to see what we can glean and in doing so lets structure the teaching in the following way.

  1. First of all lets look at the background to the scripture
  2. Lets look at the word for discipline and its uses
  3. We will look at the text itself
  4. Finally and God willing we will bring out a practical application

BACKGROUND

The author of Hebrews has been much debated over the years, some scholars say Paul, some say look and a few say Apollos. However its destination was to a group of Jewish believers just before the destruction of the Temple in 70AD.

The letter is full of Temple references in fact CH10:11 says

Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;

So the Temple sacrifice and services are spoken of by the author as a present day reality. Also look at CH13:10-11

10 We have an altar from which those who serve the [c]tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp.

The author again speaks in a present context and usage, the Temple is obviously there and functioning.

Some commentators have also said that not only is the letter written to Jewish bleivers but that with the levitical content, that these people were attached to the Temple service in some way. People who were under extreme pressure to go back to their former religion.

And so to them this letter is a twofold encouragement. First of all to keep to their faith in Yeshua as messiah because He is a better High Priest who offeres a better sacrifice. But also secondly that this letter is an encouragement against a coming persecution that will end the Temple sacrifice by the hands of the Romans in AD70.

In effect Hebrews can be divided into two parts. First of all doctrinal issues and then from CH10:19 onwards practical issues regarding faith. Our text then falls into the latter area of practical living.

WORD USAGE IN SCRIPTURE

Now the main theme of our text is discipline and discipline is a major biblical theme that unfortunately the world, the flesh and the devil don’t like to look at nowadays.

There are several words in the Hebrew and the Greek, the Hebrew meaning to give either physical or verbal enforcement in order to reprove or educate. But the main Greek nwords have to do with the training and education of children. The Greek word is Paideia, to instruct a child by deed in order to educate.

Throughout the KJV if thats your bible of choice you will see it expressed in the following ways, chasten, chasteneth, chastise and other variations of the word.

Here are some of the occurances found it the Old testament.

Proverbs 3: 11 My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:

Proverbs 13:24  He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 19:18hasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.

Psalm 94: 12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Lord, and teachest him out of thy law;

In the New Testament we see the following uses.

Luke 23:13 And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,14 Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him:15 No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.16 I will therefore chastise him, and release him.17 (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)

Here is Pilate who found nothing wrong in Jesus asking to chastise God made flesh.

1 Cor 11” 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

So we see here that when God disciplines us He does it so we do not share the same fate as the world.

Finally we see in the book of Revelation to the church of Laodicea, Jesus tells them and us if we believe this is the Laodicean church. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

So the area of discipline is widespread throughout scripture, the words virtually have the same meaning in the Hebrew and Greek. We see God disciplines the nations, He disciplines His own people Israel, we see His reason for discipline and that God disciplines those whom He loves.

AND YET! Sometimes we cant quite work out why God would want to discipline us.

THE TEXT

Let us now look at the text and get some understanding as to the subject matter.

V1 “Therefore we also”. That word therefore links it with the previous verses in CH11 which is usually called ‘the chapter of faith’. Various people of God are set before us as examples of faith through trials and testing.

Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,

The author apparently see little difference between us and the people of faith. God loves us all, We are also a people of faith. And throughout CH11, as we see Abraham, Noah, Enoch, Sarah and others, a whole host of predesessors, we must understand there is still a cloud of witnesses surrounding us today.

First of all, this is a warning to me and too you that as we go through difficult times that people are looking in to see how we handle the situation. ‘hey theres Dave Royle, believes hes a man of faith, hows he coping with that nasty situation?

But secondly it is also an encouragement. You see the author is using the language of the Arena. The saints of old have run their race and its as though they are in the stands cheering us on. Encouraging us as we fight our battles in the arena. They bear witness to the faithfulness of God in sustaining them through trial and testing and we can gain encouragement from their example.

Then the author begins to give us some sage advice , let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin

Let me tell you and maybe you can relate to this. When David Royle is under severe pressure, when David Royle is being stretched and tested and he thinks no one is looking and he is alone in the situation, it sometimes becomes easier to sin, it becomes easier to alleviate the pressure by any other means accept God.

But Dave Royle is wrong. Dave Royle is never alone, there is always a great cloud of witnesses. Be it my wife, my kids, my neighbours and friends – there all looking in. So the author says “get away from the things that entangle you and trip you up, for your sake and for theirs.

So how do we do this in times of testing? Times of trouble? Times of discipline?

[a]fixing our eyes on Jesus, the [b]author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary [c]and lose heart.

Yes there is a great cloud of witnesses whos example encourages and cheers us on and in a way when we think about it our lives are like a living epistle and is being read by others, but these others are not our final source of encouragement and strength. V2 says fixing our eyes on Jesus and V3 says consider Him and why should we fix our eyes upon and consider Him?

Because hes the author and finisher of our faith. It began with Him and it will culminate with his return.

Because He Endured. That word for endure is Hupmeno, to endure or sustain through a load of miseries, adversaries, persecutions and provocations. We look to Him because he endured on our behalf. And what did He endure? He endured the Cross, He endured such hostilities from sinners against Himself.

You see the men of faith, the cloud of witnesses with some great characters are just men. People who survived through Gods strength and grace. And yes it great to get encouragement from people of faith, but Yeshua, our saviour – fish our eyes upon Him because He endured.

Let Yeshua be the encourager, thats what the author is saying here, if your weary and discouraged in your souls, look to Him who endured, look to Him who started this race with you and be confident that He will finish this race with you.

Then the author brings two observarions concerning the target audience of this letter.

Firstly V4 You have not yet resisted [d]to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin;

Secondly V5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

Those on the receiving end of the letter were going through difficulties and there were harder times to come. You see sometimes we are in a bad situation and its hard and difficult BUT its all relative.

Our children through their earlier lives have gone through some horrible times with bad previous homes, illnesses and disabilities. But the orphans we had in Tanzania went through all that plus Rapes, plus abuse from church men. And even then we see now what they endure pales into nothing when we see what has happened to the children rounded up by ISIS and Boko Haram.

The Hebrews had pressure, they had difficulties but to the point of the author writing they had not yet shed blood. Nobody had died.

And not only that but in the middle of their woes they had forgotten Gods exhortation that speaks to us as His children. Not suprising then that in our situations we too forget the promises and counsel of  God. I am trying to be as open and honest as it needs to be here so that Gods word becomes real to us. I am not perfect, I am still by Gods grace running the race and there are too many times when instead of acting in the spirit it all runs away from me and I act in the flesh. Because I forget the promises and counsel of God.

And so eventually we need to pause and evaluate the situation and say ‘Yes this is serious to me but I know others in more pressing situations and on top of that I have forgotton what God has said in His word”.

For these Hebrews God had set in place words that were a healing balm to them and through this letter a way forward to each of us as well.

V5-6 “My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
For those whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He scourges every son whom He receives.”

My wife will tell you that when things happen to me and they are hurtful and out of my control – I sulk. I throw out all the rattles out of my cot and I begin often to point the finger. At my kids, my wife, my ministry – never myself though. I begin to despise things and then eventually I say to God “Why are you allowing this to happen.”

Yet God has been dealing with me as a son and yet still I cant see it. Even though I believe in disciplining my own children so they can learn some valuable lessons and its there as an example of my own fatherhood to them in front of my eyes and I cannot quite make it sink in that Father God would treat me in a similar way. And so I despise it and so I blame everybody and everything under the son – instead of looking unto Jesus, concidering Him and coming to terms with the fact that He loves me and He loves me so much that He doesn’t want me to have the same attributes of the world and so in Love he disciplines me.

Then V8 tells me too “But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons

Ever tried to train a rebellious 5 or 6 year old? I have this lovely little boy called Luke and he adores me, we are in his word bestest buddies. Hes 9 now but man he followed me everywhere right from being able to walk. We would share the same cup, food on my plate always tasted better. But when I disciplined him he would throw a tantrum. This kid is a long term project for me. But I love him. He acts like hes illigimate at times but to me he reminds me so much of our own relationship with Father God. The truth is God loves us, He disciplines us and yet we behave like we are illegitimate.

I hate some discipline, my own dad was an example to me too. In our home my Mumwas in charge of the daily mundane discipline because my dad was at work and he worked all the hours God gave so my dad only got to disciple the really serious stuff. It was a shame in a way because we would only see him before bed and it was good to see him and especially on Fridays because thats when he brought home treats on pay day. And so the few times he had to smack us, it was a bit of a shock, more emotional than physical pain because we were used to mum and it was unpleasant. V11 sums it up nicely when it says.

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

You see our Earthly fathers chastened us according to V10 as seemed best to them and lets face it many fathers get it wrong. But when our heavenly Father disciplines us, if we endure these trials, we will yield the peacable fruit of righteousness.

That world righteous means right behaviour, right attitude, right relationship with God and even with each other.

I respect my dad and my mum and love them to bits. I think my kids love and respect me. So then if that is the case should I not respect Gods discipline? His discipline is for our good. His discipline will yield fruit if we are trained by it. His discipline sets us up for eternity.

So to conclude. I obviously don’t know everyones circumstances today or why you have to go through a certain time of testing and trial.

Circumstances can have us treading water or even sinking for years and I don’t know if every outcome can be clear in this life time.

As I said at the start, you maybe at that point where you are passing the book, or its your wifes fault or your just unlucky or even pointing and wagging your finger at God.

Well maybe its time to take some time out and consider the God option. You see if you know God loves you, He will discipline you.

If your going the way of the world, He will steer you back.

You may feel your badly done to, but if your hear seeking Him there is hope.

You may have forgotten His exhortations and promises, bur God would bring us to that place of remembrance.

You may think its painful, but God will use it to yield peacable fruit of righteousness.

Let me ask, are you a son or are you illigitamate? You see God disciples those whom He loves.

Moriel Missions Thailand April 2015

Dear believers in grace,

Greetings in Jesus! Being parents gives us a new perspective on adults. Looking around at people I meet every day I now think about how much effort went into bringing each person to adulthood. It’s worth the effort though. We’re still enjoying our miracle boy. He finally let his umbilical cord go (after keeping it for 62 days!). He’s growing quickly. Here are a few pictures from two days ago.

Also, here are some pictures of the grandparents. We enjoyed having my parents here for 5 weeks. Khae’s parents also came at different times for a few days. We were hoping this would be a turning point for Khae’s Mom, but it’s sad to see her still giving glory to her false idols instead of to the living God.

Street Preaching

While my parents were here we went street preaching at the Night Bazaar. This was during the water festival, but fortunately people usually don’t throw water near the merchandise (or us) there. We took Micahberekiah in a stroller, and Khae said that while I was preaching he woke up each time. Paul preached open air for the first time and one other friend did also. Champ also preached and my parents helped to hand out tracts. It’s worth the effort even if one person is brought to conviction and to seek the Lord.

Jumping Sheep Hazard

Two days ago Champ and I were giving parasite medicine to the sheep. The easy part is letting them drink the medicine. The hard part is catching them first. After catching three of them, we cornered some of the others. As I reached down to grab one running by, she sprang upwards like a kangaroo, right through my cheek. I now have a very swollen cheek, with a small cut and a black eye. It could have been worse though. It’s a good thing the sheep didn’t ram my eye, teeth, or nose. Next time I think I need to wear a helmet when catching the sheep!

Children’s Classes

We continue to have a regular group of about 8-10 children now whom we teach twice a week. They are still young, but this is laying a good foundation for their future. It’s a blessing to see them grow.

Women’s Prison

Now that Jallay has gone to get married, Champ has been helping out teaching at the prison. Each time we teach them English massage vocabulary, but also share the gospel. Last month we gave each person interested a gospel of John in Thai. Of our 35 students about 30 students wanted to read the gospel.

End Times Powerpoint

I’ve just about finished reading pastor Bill’s book “A Sword on the Land.” Many good insights there, and I like the repeated appeal to pray for the Muslim people. Reading this book has also given me an idea to summarize some of this book in a powerpoint so I can present it in Thai. I hope to rent a room at a university and invite students to come for this. It’s a topic many people are wondering about with ISIS and various other events now. I also have a Thai friend who used to give talks on the end times, who I think I could work together with for such a presentation. This might be a few months off, but I’m starting to pray about this and prepare for it.

Also attached here is a comparison chart between Isaac and Jesus.
Peace in Christ, Scott, Khae, and Micahberekiah.

Isaac

Speaking of the law, Colossians says that these were a “shadow,” but Jesus is the perfect embodiment of what that stood for.  “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”  (Colossians 2:16-17)  In the book of Hebrews this idea of the law being a foreshadowing is also given, “For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.”  (Hebrews 10:1)

Of course, Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly, being the One that the “shadows” pointed to:  “And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God.”  (Hebrews 10:11-12)  God did not change His plan, but was revealing the full glory of it gradually throughout Old Testament times.  He revealed this through the law, the priests, the tabernacle, and also through individuals who all pointed to Jesus the Messiah.

Based on the audio message “Isaac– Son of Promise” by Jacob Prasch

Isaac

Jesus  

Isaac’s father sent his servant to prepare a bride for his son.  The gifts are given as proof that the servant was sent by the father (Genesis 24:1-4)

The Father sent the Holy Spirit to prepare a bride for His Son Jesus.  Gifts are given by the Holy Spirit to the bride, His church. (Hebrews 2:4)

Abraham’s only legitimate son, Isaac was laid down to be received back (Genesis 22)

The only begotten Son, Jesus laid down His life and received it back again (John 10:17-18)

Isaac was mocked by the son of a bondwoman (Genesis 21:9)

Jesus was mocked by the sons of the bondwoman in figure (the Pharisees) (Galatians 4:30)

The following comparisons are adapted from:  http://carm.org/dictionary-type

Isaac carried wood to the place of sacrifice (Genesis 22:6)

Jesus carried wood to the place of “sacrifice” (John 19:17)

God will provide Himself a lamb (Genesis 22:8)

God did provide Himself a lamb (John 1:29)

Isaac was offered on the wood (Genesis 22:9)

Jesus was offered on the wood (Luke 23:33)

A Ram (a male sheep) was caught in a thicket by its horns (Genesis 22:13)

Jesus, the lamb of God, had a crown of thorns placed on his head (Matthew 27:29)

Also…

Isaac’s life was spared because a ram was offered in his stead (Genesis 22:13)

Our life is spared when we trust in Jesus the lamb of God (John 1:29)

Isaac was born supernaturally

Jesus was born supernaturally

Isaac was the son of Abraham

Jesus was also the son of Abraham (Matthew 1:1)

Isaac was offered in the land of Moriah on one of the mountains there (Genesis 22:2)

Jesus was crucified outside of Jerusalem not far from Mount Moriah where the temple was (II Chronicles 3:1)

On the day Isaac was delivered it was the third day, from the time Abraham received commandment from God to offer his son, and he considered his son to be dead during those days (Genesis 22:4)

Jesus was considered by many to be dead, but was raised to life on the third day (Matthew 16:21)

Isaac blessed Jacob (aka Israel) (Genesis 27:28-30)

Jesus blessed Israel (Acts 3:25-26)

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Testing the Spirits

by Sandy Simpson 
April 30, 2015

Sometimes I really wonder why someone who claims to be a Bible believing pastor, for instance, refuses to listen to the truth. It frankly boggles my mind. I don’t know if it is as a result of the postmodern paradigm or just that they have no love of the truth left. I don’t know how that can happen in a truly regenerate person. You would think that the Holy Spirit would confirm the truth to them, first in their conscience, and finally through the written Word. But these days it is a miracle if it gets that far. I don’t know if their conscience has been so seared that they don’t hear the Spirit or if they just don’t want to know the truth because then they would be responsible for it. I know that I cannot know their motives or the reasons why they reject truth and refuse to talk about false teaching, but I do know one thing: we are called as true believers to test the spirits. We must do this even if the result is not to our liking or befuddles us as to the reasons. Continue reading

Reading Matthew 13 as a Prophetic Discourse

by Jaco Jan Scholtz (South Africa)
April 29, 2015

For better or for worse, Matthew 13 has been – and is! – a battleground for interpreters. Even if commentators agree about what a parable is or what it may specifically mean, they may disagree about its eschatology. At least three major views exist about whether there are one or two phases to the kingdom of heaven. Even if they hold like-minded views about all the above, commentators may still differ about what the ‘mysteries of the kingdom of heaven’ are. Amidst the plethora of proposed interpretations of the parables of Matthew 13, I try to show in a three-part series of articles that Matthew 13 may be read as a prophetic discourse. Continue reading

Rev Philip Powell

by James Jacob Prasch
April 26, 2015

It is with a combination of sadness and joy that we learned Philip Powell, former General Secretary of the Australia Assemblies of God, went to be with The Lord early Sunday morning 26th of April following a battle with cancer.

Philip was pastor of a church in Brisbane, Australia and directed CWM Ministries in Australia, The UK, and New Zealand after leaving the Assemblies of God establishment due to its deviation into apostasy that included ecumenism, dominionism, the Toronto/Pensecola delusion, psychologisation, and money oriented preaching – all of which Philip bravely and staunchly opposed, often at tremendous personal cost, in favor of a more scripture based and Christ centered expression of Pentecostalism. Over the decades Philip had been pastor of churches in both Australia and the UK as well as a time spent in ministry in New York City.

Philip Powell came from a conservative but lively Welsh Pentecostal tradition in the school of Hedley Palmer and Clifford Reese, Aeron Morgan, and Philip’s uncle David Powell, one of the the most powerfully gifted and insightful Pentecostal preachers of the 20th century as Aeron Morgan was its premier British & Australian exegete. Witnessing the departure from solid doctrine and standards of holiness that framed the early Pentecostalism he came from and so loved, Philip often stood almost alone as a voice of warning. Philip Powell realized that the Branhamite and Kenyanite insanity that was soundly rejected by early Pentecostalism as heretical was repackaged and relabeled and had become mainstream within most of modern Western Pentecostalism in the English speaking world. This won him the admiration of many bewildered believers as well as the angst of the religious establish he resigned from that likewise rejected him. In the end, like the Hebrew prophets of scripture Philip was vindicated by The Lord and by history. The denominational figures Philip openly challenged for misleading the people of God from Elim’s Ian Bilby and the Assemblies of God leader Wayne Hughes in New Zealand, to Frank Houston at Hillsong and Jim Williams in Australia and Thomas Trask in the USA, and various others ended in public scandal widely reported in the secular media just as Philip warned would transpire if they failed to repent. The high profile aftermath of these hyped up trends where the media exposed scandals that Philip and a few others with him prognosticated and earnestly tried to prevent rather than the “revivals” their proponents who opposed Philip Powell’s objections promised. In this Philip Powell’s rejected caveats proved to be in some sense demonstrably prophetic. The last 25 years of Philip’s temporal life read almost like an Old Testament narrative of a rejected prophet of Israel whose predictions became undeniably true. Like Larry Thomas in the USA, Philip’s attempts to avert these scandal clad disasters did not succeed, but he succeeded in doing what The Lord called him to do. As we can likewise say of Jeremiah, Hosea, and Amos – “they should have listened to him”.

While usually on the same page on most issues, it would be hypocritical of us not to recognize that there had been certain points where Moriel and CWM were not congruous and where Philip Powell and I (Jacob Prasch) disagreed. This was however not the norm and at the close of his temporal life Philip Powell & Jacob Prasch were amicable as both brothers and friends. On a personal note I shall never forget the troubled era when the counterfeit revivals avalanched like a demonically orchestrated maelstrom of error and deception when Philip Powell and I stood shoulder to shoulder and back to back on platforms together in Australia, Britain, and New Zealand. Philip was a commander in cadre of moderate Pentecostal and Charismatic preachers and authors who were outnumbered and ostracized for what Pentecostal Executives came to consider to be the unpardonable sin: ‘telling the truth’.

Moriel & Jacob Prasch request prayer for the ministry of CWM and for Philip’s church and its eldership in Brisbane including Brothers Frank Turvey and Jeff Pitman.. Above all we request prayer for Philip’s dear wife Kath and his family.

May they know the consolation of Jesus during this time of temporary separation and bereavement. Philip did a thankless job he never asked for because that is what God told him to do. While I certainly express my condolences to his beloved Kath and his family, Philip did that job God assigned him that neither Philip or anyone in their right mind would ever want and in the strength of The Lord has now he has finished that all but impossible job and simply gone home to a well deserved reward in Christ Jesus.

Now that he is in glory awaiting us with Jesus, whenever I recall the legacy of Philip Powell in the future – that one maxim will be repeated as summing his legacy up in just one sentence: “They Should Have Listened To Him”!

DIE DOOD VAN ABSALOM

by James Jacob Prasch
April 2015

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2 Sam. 18:1-3: “En Dawid het die manskappe gemonster wat by hom was, en owerstes oor duisend en owerstes oor honderd oor hulle aangestel. En Dawid het die manskappe uitgestuur: ‘n derde deel onder bevel van Joab, en ‘n derde onder Abísai, die seun van Serúja, die broer van Joab, en ‘n derde onder Ittai, die Gittiet; en die koning het aan die manskappe gesê: Ek sal ook seker saam met julle uittrek. Maar die manskappe het gesê: U mag nie uittrek nie, want as ons miskien vlug, sal hulle nie op ons ag gee nie; ja, al sterwe die helfte van ons, hulle sal nie op ons ag gee nie, want u is soos tien duisend van ons. Dit is dan nou beter dat u ons van die stad uit te hulp kom.”

Dit was ’n verskriklike situasie: Die Hebreërs het nie teen Filistyne geveg nie, ook nie teen die Kanaaniete nie, ook nie die Amalekiete nie, die Hebreërs het teen Hebreërs geveg. Daar was die oorlog tussen Israel en Juda, en die oorlog in die laaste hoofstuk van die boek Rigters, wat ’n burger oorlog was wat uitgebreek het toe ’n man se byvrou deur ’n bende verkrag is en haar liggaamsdele onder die nasie rondgestuur was. Dit was die verskriklikste oorlog van al die oorloë in Rigters. En hier sien ons gebeur dit weer.

Dieselfde met ons, die slegte oorloë waarin ons as Christene betrokke gaan raak is nie teen ongelowiges nie; hulle sal deel wees van die burger oorlog. Die slegte gevegte is teen ons eie soort, een gelowige wat die swaard opneem teen ’n ander gelowige, nie ’n fisiese swaard nie maar die Swaard van die Gees, die Woord van die God, soos wat die Puriteine dit gebruik het.
Om teen Kanaaniete, die Filistyne; Moslems, Vrymesselaars, Roomse Katolieke te veg- geen probleem. Maar wat gebeur wanneer broer teen broer veg, of in die geval van vader teen seun?

Rebellie in die Kamp.

Jesus sê reguit Hy het gekom om skeiding te bring, ouers teen kinders, dit gebeur sekerlik wanneer ’n onbekeerde familielid tot bekering gekom het; dit is ’n ernstige probleem onder Joodse families, Moslem families en somtyds onder Katolieke en Gypsy families, en dan ook met mense wat teoreties alreeds gelowiges was maar wat in rebellie gekom het.

Ons lewe in ’n eeu en ’n tyd waar daar ’n ernstige rebellie in die kamp van die Here is, en families is verdeel. Byvoorbeeld, kyk na die verdeeldheid wat die Toronto verskynsel veroorsaak het.

Die regmatige leierskap wat God aangestel het was deur Absalom misbruik; en baie van die mense, die meeste het Absalom gevolg. Wat ook ’n feit is, is dat in die Bybel tipifiseer Absalom die Antichris. In die Kidron buite Jerusalem is die moontlike plek waar Absalom se gedenksteen staan. (Alhoewel die argeoloë nie heeltemal seker is van die plek nie.) En tot vandag toe kan jy sien hoe ortodokse Jode dit met klippe gooi.

’n Vals Christus.

’n Verdeeldheid het in die kamp ontstaan: Vers 9: “En die dienaars van Dawid het Absalom onverwags aangetref terwyl Absalom op ‘n muil ry; en toe die muil onder die digte takke van ‘n groot terpentynboom ingaan, (As jy die tipologie volg, die feit dat hy op ’n muil ry is ’n beeld van ’n valse Christus) – het sy hoof in die terpentynboom vasgehaak, sodat hy tussen hemel en aarde bly hang het, terwyl die muil onder hom wegloop. (Hy het aan ’n boom gehang, Jesus het aan ’n houtkruis gehang)

Vers 10 Toe die man dit sien, het hy aan Joab berig gebring en gesê: Kyk, ek het Absalom aan ‘n terpentynboom sien hang. En Joab sê vir die man wat hom die berig gebring het: En as jy dit gesien het, waarom het jy hom dan nie daar teen die grond neergeslaan nie? Dan moes ek jou tien silwerstukke en een gord gegee het.

Maar die man sê vir Joab: Al kon ek ook duisend silwerstukke op my hande weeg, ek sou my hand tog nie uitsteek teen die seun van die koning nie; want die koning het u en Abísai en Ittai voor ons ore bevel gegee en gesê: Julle, wie dan ook, moet vir die jongman Absalom sorg– niks tog bly vir die koning verborge nie—(Hier is Dawid ’n tipe van Christus, niks is vir die Koning verborge nie)- dan sou u opsy gestaan het. Toe sê Joab: Ek wil nie so by jou vertoef nie! En hy het drie spiese in sy hand geneem en dié in die hart van Absalom gesteek, terwyl hy nog lewendig was binne-in die terpentynboom.”

“Vervloek is elkeen wat aan ’n hout hang”.

Absalom se dood was een ding; maar die manier waarop hy dood is sou ’n spesifieke verbintenis vir die Jode inhou as gevolg van die aanhaling uit die Tora. Haman was aan ’n boom opgehang en op dieselfde wyse was die Messias vervloek vir ons sonde en Hy het ook aan ’n boom gehang. Net so is Absalom deursteek terwyl hy aan ’n boom gehang het, en met wie assosieer hy?. ’n Vals Christus.

Die slegste krisis.

As daar nou een ding is wat bitter moeilik is vir ’n Christen, as jy dit nie alreeds ondervind het nie, is dit die dood van ’n ongeredde geliefde familielid. Dit is die moeilikste ding wat ek as Christen al beleef het. Ek kry hartseer briewe van vroue met ongeredde mans, ek het nog nooit ’n gelukkige Christen vrou gesien wat met ’n ongeredde man getroud is nie- al is dit ’n goeie man. Enige Christen wat met ’n ongeredde persoon trou skep vir hom of haar ’n groot probleem.

My vader het so ver ek weet ongered gesterf en vir wat ek weet is my vader in die Hel met geen hoop en ontvlugting nie. Maar aan einde is dit net God wat weet wat met die dood en na die dood gebeur, maar in die hele Bybel, die hele Nuwe Testament is daar net een redding wat op die doodsbed plaasgevind het, en dit is die goeie rower wat saam met Jesus gekruisig was. Wat kan slegter wees as om ongeredde en teruggevalle kinders te hê? Niks nie! Die slegste ding wat met my en jou kan gebeur is wanneer ons ongelowige geliefde het, hulle gaan in rebellie teen God sterf.

Geliefdes: Gered en Ongered.

My moeder is nie gered nie, sy het al twee hartaanvalle en ’n beroerte gehad. Sy het oog probleme, sy het kanker en artritis, sy is net 62 jaar oud. Ek is baie jammer vir haar en baie lief vir haar en wil so graag hê sy moet tot redding kom. Daar is al so baie vir haar getuig maar dit eindig altyd in argumente. Alles wat ek of my suster vir haar kon gesê het ons gesê. Sy het gesien hoe my lewe verander het. Sy weet toe ek tot bekering gekom het en opgehou het om dwelms te gebruik en om rond te slaap, maar sy kom nie tot bekering nie, elke dag van my lewe dink ek daaraan, en al wat ek kan doen is om vir haar te bid. Het jy ’n ongeredde man, vrou of kind waaraan jy elke dag dink, en wat is jou grootste vrees? Ons moet eerlik wees.

Miskien gaan jy na ’n kerk waar musiek gebruik word om mense op te sweep en gassprekers betaal word om strooi te preek. Dit is ’n werklikheid. Al die strooi en vervalsings gaan jou nie deur hierdie soort krisisse help as jy met dit gekonfronteer word nie.

Dis ’n wonderlike ding as jy ’n maat het wat ook ’n gelowige in Jesus is, dank God vir my vrou, my seun en dogter, vir my suster. Ek dank God vir hierdie mense, my afhanklikes wat verewig saam met my sal wees. Dit is wonderlik, maar dan is daar die ander wat ek ook baie lief het, wat die Here Jesus nie minder lief het nie. My vrou se ouers is oorlewendes van die gasoonde en eks -Refuseniks. My kinders het vir hulle grootouers getuig. Hulle het baie dinge deurgemaak van sogenaamde Christene wat vir die Gestapo polisie vertel het waar hulle weggekruip het en waar my oupa in ’n straat met masjien gewere dood geskiet is, verskriklike dinge! Wat kan slegter wees? Net een ding: as hulle nie aan einde tot redding kom nie, dan gaan daar niks slegter wees nie.
Ons almal het ongeredde geliefdes, mense vir wie ons omgee, mag God in sy genade elkeen van hulle red, maar die feit is, in die werklikheid gaan van hulle nie gered word nie, wat kan ek sê, dit is niks anders as genade wat my anders as hulle maak.

Die Twee Boodskappers.

Vers 15: “En tien jongmanne, wapendraers van Joab, het nader gekom en Absalom doodgeslaan.” (Iets om aan te dink is dat ’n basiese Roomse bataljon soldate bestaan het uit 10 manne. Ek dink dit is so ’n bataljon soldate wat Jesus na die kruis begelei het waar hulle Hom gekruisig het.)

16 Daarop blaas Joab op die ramshoring, en al die manskappe het omgedraai en Israel nie meer agtervolg nie, want Joab het die manskappe teruggehou. (Die hele noordelike Israel onder Absalom het teen Dawid opgestaan.) Toe het hulle Absalom geneem en hom in die bos in ‘n groot kuil gegooi en ‘n baie groot hoop klippe bo-op hom gestapel, onderwyl die hele Israel elkeen na sy tent vlug.” Hulle kampioen het tot niks geword nie; ’n gruwel verhaal.

18 En Absalom het gedurende sy lewe die gedenksteen wat in die koningsdal staan, geneem en vir homself opgerig met die woorde: Ek het geen seun om my naam in gedagtenis te hou nie; en hy het die gedenksteen na sy naam genoem, en dit word tot vandag toe genoem die gedenkteken van Absalom.

19 Daarop sê Ahímaäs, die seun van Sadok: Laat my tog hardloop en aan die koning die goeie boodskap bring dat die HERE aan hom reg verskaf het teenoor sy vyande. Maar Joab sê vir hom: Jy is nie vandag ‘n man vir ‘n boodskap nie, maar anderdag kan jy ‘n boodskap bring–vandag mag jy nie die boodskap bring nie juis omdat die seun van die koning dood is.

21 Toe sê Joab vir die Kusiet: – (’n Kusiet in Hebreeus is ’n persoon met ’n swart vel, basies ’n Ethiopiër) “Gaan vertel die koning wat jy gesien het! En die Kusiet het voor Joab gebuig en gehardloop.
(Iets interessant, hier is die eerste persoon wat ‘n nie-Jood, ‘n Kusiet was, ’n Ethiopiër, ’n swart man wat die Christelike geloof aangeneem het.)

22 Maar Ahímaäs, die seun van Sadok, het nog ‘n keer aan Joab gesê: Laat kom wat wil–laat my tog ook agter die Kusiet aan hardloop. En Joab vra: Waarom wil jy dan nou hardloop, my seun? Vir jou is daar tog geen boodskappersloon te kry nie. Laat kom wat wil, sê hy, ek hardloop. En hy antwoord hom: Hardloop! En Ahímaäs het met die pad na die Jordaanstreek gehardloop en die Kusiet verbygegaan.

En terwyl Dawid tussen die twee poortingange sit, het die wag op die dak van die poort op die muur geklim; en toe hy sy oë opslaan, sien hy meteens ‘n man alleen hardloop. Toe het die wag uitgeroep en dit aan die koning meegedeel. En die koning sê: As hy alleen is, dan is daar ‘n goeie boodskap in sy mond. Terwyl hy al nader en nader kom,–

Die term vir ‘Goeie Nuus’ in Hebreeus is bissorah; dit is ’n Griekse ekwivalente vir evangelion- Evangelie. “Hoe lieflik op die berge is die voete van hom wat die goeie nuus- ‘bissorah’ bring- Die Evangelie van vrede.”

26 — sien die wag ‘n ander man hardloop; en die wag het die poortwagter toegeroep en gesê: Kyk, daar hardloop nog ‘n man alleen. Daarop sê die koning: Hy bring ook ‘n goeie boodskap. 27 Verder het die wag gesê: Ek sien die gang van die eerste is soos die gang van Ahímaäs, die seun van Sadok. Toe sê die koning: Hy is ‘n goeie man, en hy kom met ‘n goeie boodskap.

En Ahímaäs het uitgeroep en aan die koning gesê: Vrede! En hy het hom voor die koning gebuig met sy aangesig na die aarde en gesê: Geloofd sy die HERE u God wat die manne oorgelewer het wat hulle hand teen my heer die koning opgetel het. Toe vra die koning: Gaan dit goed met die jongman, met Absalom? En Ahímaäs antwoord: Ek het ‘n groot gewoel gesien toe Joab die dienaar van die koning, naamlik u dienaar, gestuur het, maar ek het nie geweet wat dit was nie.

Daarop sê die koning: Gaan opsy en kom hier staan. Toe hy dan opsy gaan en daar bly staan,”
Ahimaas het goed geweet wat gebeur het maar hy wou net die goeie nuus bring, hy wou nie die slegte nuus bring nie, alhoewel, as jy nie weet wat die slegte nuus is nie dan sal jy ook nie weet wat die goeie nuus is nie.

Genade: Goedkoop of onskatbaar?

‘Weet jy wat, daar is ’n kuur vir jou probleem! ”O, ek het nie geweet ek is siek nie.” ‘Wel, hier is die X strale van jou bors; dit is die slegte nuus wat die goeie nuus so goed maak.’

Ons lewe in eeu waar dit wat gepreek word in meeste gevalle goedkoop genade is. Die Bybel sê. “Koop sonder geld.”omdat dit verniet, gratis is. Alhoewel, dit beteken nie dat alles vry is nie. God het Sy Enigste Seun gegee. Daar is nie ‘n prys nie maar dit gaan ons- ons lewens in hierdie wêreld kos. Dit het God se Seun se lewe gekos.

‘Steek jou hand op en aanvaar Jesus…….’ God is lief vir jou….” “Die Here is vandag hier om jou te seën…” “God het jou lief en Hy het ’n wonderlike plan vir jou lewe…” Het Petrus so gepreek? Dis geen wonder dat Bill Bright by die Roomse kerk aangesluit het en Campus Crusade verdwyn het nie.
“God het jou lief en Hy wil jou seën, steek jou hand op en ontvang Jesus in jou hart” Klink dit bekend? Hoor ons dit nie al vir ’n hele paar jaar in baie kerke nie? Kyk na die Boek Handelinge, is dit- dit wat Petrus gepreek het? Nee! Dit was: “Red jouself van ’n krom en verdraaide geslag.”
Lees Charles Spurgeon, John Wesley, D.L. Moody, George Whitefield– dit is mense wat deur God gebruik was om herlewing in Brittanje te bring. Was dit die soort preke wat hulle gepreek het? Nee! Vandag gaan dit oor “positive thinking” en pop sielkunde- om soos die wêreld te wees. Dit is goedkoop genade.

Liefde en Geregtigheid.

Kyk na die Charismatiese ‘hernuwing’ Wat was dit? “o’ die liefde van Jesus, die liefde van God, die liefde van Christus.” As jy nie die geregtigheid van Jesus verstaan nie dan sal jy ook nie begryp hoeveel liefde dit vir Hom gevat het om in ons plek na die Kruis te gaan nie.

God het mens geword om in my plek te sterf vir dit ek gedoen het?!!? Vandag is daar kerke wat ’n positiewe dryfkrag najaag maar hulle ontken God se geregtigheid en sien God se oordele as negatief.

Baie mense sal hardloop met die goeie nuus—“God is lief vir jou!” “Daar is oorwinning, daar is seën, daar is redding!” Geen probleem. Maar my seun, my moeder, my vader is dood sonder Christus? Dit is nie iets wat ek vir mense wil sê nie. Dit is wat jy dikwels met Joodse evangelisasie hoor, dinge soos: “My oupa was ’n heilige man, ’n rabbi, maar toe julle Christene hom gearresteer het en in die Naam van Jesus en in ’n oond gegooi het, weet jy wat het hy in Auschwitz gesê toe hy in die naam van Christlikheid gesterf het?: ‘Schma Israel Adonai Elohenu, Adonai echad’ – dit was sy laaste woorde, en jy wil my vertel dit was omdat hy nie hierdie Christus in wie se Naam hy vermoor is wou aanneem nie, en nou is hy in die Hel?”

Dit klink moeilik, is dit nie?

Ja, ons moet hulle vertel oor hulle Joodse grootouers maar ons moet ook vertel van ons Poolse, of Italiaanse grootouers, of enige persoon wat Jesus Christus verwerp het en so gesterf het.
’n Goeie reaksie op so ’n ’n Joodse argument is: “Daar is net een God, die God van die Jode; Daar is net een redding – Die Messias van die Jode. Heidene moet julle God en Messias aanvaar; as jy dan jou eie God en Messias verwerp, dan moet jy die gevolge net soos hulle dra.

Die Eerste Boodskapper: Geen loon.

Maar ons wil net die goeie boodskap vir mense gee; niemand stel belang in slegte nuus nie. Maar wat gebeur met diegene wat net die goeie nuus wil uitdra?

Vers 22: “Vir jou is daar tog geen boodskappersloon te kry nie.”

Met ander woorde, waarom kla jy? Die wyse man wen siele. Diegene wat baie siele tot geregtigheid lei- sê die Skrifte- sal in die ewigheid skitter in heerlikheid. Dit sluit nie goedkoop genade in nie, alhoewel, as jy ’n goedkoop genade boodskap preek, dan preek jy nie genade nie. Daar is geen loon nie, tenspyte van al die altaar oproepe of al die ‘praise and worship’ ere dienste jy gehou het.
Dank God wat my deur Sy genade gered het, hoekom? Ek het geen idee nie, en ek verwag ook nie dat ek dit ooit sal weet nie, ten minste nie aan hierdie kant van die ewigheid nie.

Ek het vriende gehad wat baie beter mense was as ek wat sonder Christus gesterf het. Hoekom ek en nie hulle nie? Ek weet nie, ek weet dit het niks met my te doen nie; wat ookal die antwoord is, dit sal nie in my gekry word nie. Maar die goeie nuus is- ek is gered is. Die slegte nuus is, daar is baie mense wat ek lief het en vir wie ek omgee wat nie gered is nie.

Die Tweede Boodskapper.

En dan kom die swart man—hy is baie meer eerlik, reguit en op die aarde. Hy speel nie speletjies nie, gebruik nie sagte woorde nie of probeer om hom uit die situasie te wikkel nie, hy bring die goeie nuus saam met die slegte nuus.

Vers 31 –“kom die Kusiet juis aan; en die Kusiet sê: My heer die koning moet die blye boodskap ontvang dat die HERE aan u vandag reg verskaf het teenoor almal wat teen u opgestaan het.
En die koning het die Kusiet gevra: Gaan dit goed met die jongman, met Absalom? En die Kusiet sê: Mag dit met die vyande van my heer die koning en met almal wat teen u opstaan om kwaad te doen, gaan soos met dié jongman! Toe het die koning baie ontroerd geword en opgeklim na die bovertrek van die poort en geween; en hy het rondgeloop en só gesê: My seun Absalom, my seun, my seun Absalom! Ag, as ek self maar in jou plek gesterf het! Absalom, my seun, my seun!”

In die Hebreeuse teks is hierdie woorde baie meer emosioneel: ‘Oi, Avshalom, beni beni Avshalom, beni!’ “My seun Absalom, my seun, my seun Absalom! Ag, as ek self maar in jou plek gesterf het! Absalom, my seun, my seun” !

Koning Dawid / Koning Jesus.

“Ek wens dit was ek wat aan daardie boom gehang het in plaas van jy my seun.”
Ons moet die tipologie hier verstaan: Koning Dawid kon maar net wens dat dit hy was wat aan die boom gehang het en wie hulle deursteek het in die plek van iemand wat hy liefgehad het; maar Loof die Here, Jesus Christus die Seun van Dawid kon dit doen.

Wat Koning Dawid nie kon doen nie het Koning Jesus gedoen. Toe Koning Jesus aan daardie boom gehang het was Hy vir my en vir jou deursteek, as jy gered is. As jy nie gered is nie, moet jy alles doen om gered te word. Dit illustreer die verskil tussen die twee verbonde van die Wet van Genade.
Die Wet wys ons op die absolute nodigheid vir redding; maar dit kon nie vir ons intree om ons te red nie, net die Messias kan red. Wat die Wet nie kon doen nie het die Messias gedoen; wat die eerste Dawid koning nie kon doen nie- om in die plek te sterf vir die wat hy liefhet—het die Tweede Dawid Koning—Jesus Christus fisies- gedoen.

In Diepe Rou.

2 Sam 19:1: “En aan Joab is meegedeel: Kyk, die koning ween en bedryf rou oor Absalom.”
Dawid treur soos wat baie van ons treur: My seun het in sonde gesterf, hy is dood in rebellie, ongered! ‘Ja, maar hy het jou hart gebreek’.

“Hy het afvallig geword, jy het hom in die waarheid groot gemaak, hy ken God se wee van vroeg in sy jeug af, en hy het teen God en teen jou gerebelleer en ’n verworpeling geword!”
Daar is nie ’n dag van oorwinning nie, net ’n dag van treur. O’ ek wil jou die goeie nuus vertel, maar ek het ook slegte nuus vir jou.

3 “Daarom het die volk dié dag stilletjies die stad ingekom, net soos mense wat skaam is, wegsluip as hulle in die geveg gevlug het.” Met ander woorde, hulle het gewen, maar gedra hulle asof hulle verloor het.

O’ ek dank God vir my redding wat Hy in Jesus vir my gegee het! Dit is die goeie nuus, maar ek betreur ook die dood van diegene wat ek lief het wat nie die oorwinning in redding gekry het nie.

4 “En die koning het sy gesig toegemaak, en die koning het hardop uitgeroep: My seun Absalom! Absalom, my seun, my seun! Toe kom Joab by die koning in die huis en sê: U het vandag die aangesig van al u dienaars beskaamd gemaak, wat vandag u lewe en die lewe van u seuns en dogters en die lewe van u vroue en die lewe van u byvroue gered het, deur lief te hê diegene wat u haat, en te haat diegene wat u liefhet; want u gee vandag te kenne dat owerstes en onderdane vir u niks is nie, want ek merk vandag dat, as Absalom lewendig en ons almal vandag dood was, dit dan in u oë reg sou gewees het.

Daar is ’n waarheid hier: ten minste wanneer geredde mense sterf, hulle gaan nie Hel toe nie. Ek sal altyd verkies om te sien waar geredde mense sterf as mense wat nie gered is nie. Daar is sentiment; dit is reg, maar ook verkeerd, verkeerd maar ook reg. Dit is dubbelsinnig is dit nie? Daar is ’n spanning. Maar Joab gaan verder: 7: “Staan dan nou op, gaan uit en spreek na die hart van u dienaars, want ek sweer by die HERE–as u nie uitgaan nie, sal sekerlik vannag geen man by u bly nie; en dit sal vir u ‘n groter onheil wees as al die onheile wat u oorgekom het van u jeug af tot nou toe. En die koning het opgestaan en in die poort gaan sit; en hulle het die hele volk laat weet en gesê: Kyk, die koning sit in die poort. Daarna het die hele volk voor die koning gekom.

Weereens, dit is wonderlik as jou en my se geliefdes gered is, alhoewel, die feit is ek weet nie wie hierdie brief gaan lees nie, baie van julle het ek nog nooit gesien nie, maar as jy weergebore is en Jesus lief het dan is ek in ’n ewigheid siening nader aan julle as wat ek aan my eie moeder is, alhoewel ek in ’n fisiese en emosionele siening nader aan haar is, is ek in ’n ewigheid siening nader aan julle- die goeie nuus en die slegte nuus.

Bybelse Haat.

Die Evangelie gebruik die Griekse woord ‘miso’, en heel waarskynlik het Jesus ook die Hebreeuse Aramese woord ‘sina’ gebruik. As jy nie jou ouers of jou eie lewe in hierdie wêreld haat nie, dan is jy die Here nie waardig nie. Die Griekse woord hier is waar ons woord ‘misogyny’ kry; ’n sterk woord wat Haat beteken. Dit beteken nie net dat jy die term haat relatief gebruik om jou liefde vir God te betuig nie, dit is omdat jou liefde vir God so groot is dat jou liefde vir iets anders lyk asof jy dit haat.

Die woord is inderdaad ‘haat’. Die sleutel hier is- “in hierdie wêreld”. Ek is lief vir my moeder, maar ek haat haar lewe in hierdie wêreld. My vrou se ouers is goeie Joodse mense wat ek liefhet, maar ek haat hulle lewe in hierdie wêreld. Ek haat ook my eie natuurlike lewe in hierdie wêreld.
Jy kan nie mense wat kanker het liefhê as jy nie kanker haat nie.

Jy kan ook nie mense liefhê wat as gevolg van sonde oppad Hel toe is as jy nie die sonde haat nie. Dit is net God se genade wat ons anders maak as ongeredde mense. Daar is net een teks vers in die Bybel waarmee ek nie saam stem nie , en dit is waar Paulus sê hy is die hoof van alle sondaars, maar hy weet nie van my nie.

Goeie nuus en slegte nuus.

Romeine 1:16: “Want ek skaam my nie oor die evangelie van Christus nie, want dit is ‘n krag van God tot redding vir elkeen wat glo, eerste vir die Jood en ook vir die Griek.”
Is dit nie goeie nuus nie? Die Evangelie is die krag van redding vir almal- Jode en nie-Jode. Omdat my familie ’n mengsel is, kry ek dit van beide kante af. Dit is die goeie nuus, kom ons kyk na die slegte nuus.

Rom. 2:9: “verdrukking en benoudheid oor die siel van elke mens wat kwaad doen, oor die Jood eerste en ook oor die Griek;”
Omdat die Evangelie eerste vir Jode is as gevolg van die Verbond, is die gevolge vir die verwerping daarvan ook eerstens vir hulle.

Deut. 18 sê God het ’n Profeet soos Moses opgerig en Sy Woord in sy mond gegee en wie nie na hom luister nie sal voor God rekenskap gee. In Joh. 5 sê Jesus as die Jode Moses geglo het dan sou hulle Hom ook geglo het. Soos wat ek al menige kere gesê het: Dit gaan nie daaroor dat die Jode Jesus verwerp het nie, dit was nie hulle probleem nie, dit was die resultaat en die nagevolge van hulle probleem. Hulle probleem was hulle het Moses én die Tora verwerp. Maar die feit bly staan, daar was slegte nuus en goeie nuus. God is lief vir Israel, dit is waar, maar hulle is onder die vloek van die Wet- Lev. 26, Deut. 28.

Hoekom die Gasoond moord, hoekom die ketterjag, die Jodemoord? Dit is as gevolg van die vloek van die Wet—of Yeshua vat die vloek en word die vloek aan die boom, of hulle is nog steeds onder die vloek.

My vrou kan vertel wat se tragedie dit was toe die Jode moordenaars haar oupa in Romenië vermoor het, maar sy sal jou ook van ’n groter tragedie vertel en dit is dat hy nie Yeshua sy Messias geken het nie. Is dit goeie nuus??

Ja, redding is eerste vir die Jood, en God is lief vir die Jode. Die slegte nuus, die nagevolge van die verwerping van Jesus is ook eerste vir die Jode- sê Rabbi Shaul van Tarsus onder die inspirasie van God en Sy Woord.

Christelike anti-Semitisme in sy slegste vorm.

Dit is iets soos: Daar is geen redding in enige naam onder die son behalwe in Jesus Christus nie. Ek het menigmaal opgetree teen anti-Semitiese bewegings in die naam van Christenskap.
In Noord Ierland het ek ’n video gemaak teen Britse Israelisme, ek weet wat dit was en hoe belaglik dit was, maar ek het geen idee gehad hoe anti-Semities dit in karakter was nie. Toe Elim begin verkondig dat Jesus nie Joodse bloed het nie kon ek nie verder nie en hulle het my uit Elim verban tot nou toe. Ek het verskeie kere opgetree ten koste van my eie bediening en lewens onderhoud, teen anti-Semitisme in die Kerk. Maar die slegste vorm van anti-Semitisme is om vir ’n Jood die goeie nuus te vertel sonder die slegte nuus.

Joodse verwerping van Jesus gaan Christelike anti-semitisme vooruit. In die Boek Handelinge het Joodse instellings die Messiaanse Jode vervolg voordat enige Christen ooit ’n Jood vervolg het. Jode het Joodse gelowiges vervolg voordat daar enige Christen Semitisme bestaan het.
In die tweede eeu, gedurende die tyd van Justin Martyr- het die rabbis so ver gegaan as om die Romeinse gesagdraers teen die Heidense gelowiges op te sweep.

Ek het ongelooflike bande en oproepe en briewe uit Israel ontvang. Ek en mense wat by my was- was erg geskok. Op band word gesê dat die Jode wat in die Jodemoord gesterf het nie Hel toe sal gaan as hulle Jesus verwerp nie, God het hulle lief en hulle was vervolg en hulle is hemel toe sonder Jesus. Die Bybel sê daar is redding in geen ander Naam nie. Ek wil nie daaraan dink dat Jode Hel toe gaan nie, ook van niemand nie- maar die feit bly staan.

Die spreker op die band sê die Bybel beteken nie nou meer wat dit oorspronklik beteken het nie, so, alhoewel Paulus sê dat hulle bloed van jou hande ge-eis sal word as jy nie die Evangelie aan die Jode bring nie, is nie meer van toepassing nie omdat anti–Semitisme nie meer waar is nie, dit was net van toepassing in die eerste eeu, ons het nie langer die reg om vir die Jode te preek nie.
Getuienis versus gesigte.

Hierdie band gaan aan en sê dat alhoewel baie Jode tot redding kom, word hulle nie meer gered deur die getuienis van Christene nie, ons het nie meer nodig om vir hulle te getuig en te preek nie.
Dit word van my verwag om te glo dat die beweging ‘Jode vir Jesus’, Helen Shapiro en CWT verkeerd is. Hierdie band maak daarop aanspraak dat die oorgrote aantal Jode gered is omdat Jesus persoonlik aan hulle verskyn het- hulle het gesigte gesien.

Ek was vir meer as twintig jaar ’n evangelis onder die Jode en deur die genade van die God het ek baie Jode in baie lande na Christus gelei. Ek het baie van hulle getuienisse gehoor en gelees. In een spesifieke geval was daar ’n man in New York, Jay Edelstein wat tot redding gekom het deur ’n persoonlike verskyning van Jesus. So, daar was ’n uitsonderlik geval, maar hierdie gesig was in samewerking van mense wat getuig het van die waarheid wat hy ontvang het. Die meeste Jode het tot redding gekom op die wyse wat Helen Shapire of Stan Telchin tot redding gekom het.

Feministiese teoloë en vroue predikers is onder diegene wat verkondig dat die Bybel nie meer beteken wat dit beteken het nie. Net so is daar homoseksuele en hulle gay geleerdes, liberale en ketters wat hulleself probeer regverdig deur te beweer dat die Bybel nie meer dieselfde boodskap dra as wat dit gedra het toe dit geskrywe was nie.

Die idee dat ons nie meer nodig het om vir die Jode te getuig of vir hulle te bid dat God hulle red nie- is ’n leuen!

Bring die slegte Nuus saam met die goeie Nuus.

Die goeie nuus en die slegte nuus: die slegte nuus is dat enige mens wat Jesus nie aangeneem het nie is verdoem tot die ewige veroordeling. Die goeie nuus is, baie mense- dit sluit baie Jode in, hoor die goeie nuus saam met die slegte nuus, hulle kom tot bekering en aanvaar Jesus as hulle Messias. ‘Ek sal al die nuus vir jou bring, die goeie en die slegte.’

Die koning se seun is dood; my vrou se oupa is deur die Nazis doodgeskiet, haar familie het in die gasoonde omgekom, maar na alles kan ek vir jou mense wys wat dit oorleef het en wat tot redding gekom het. Hoekom? Dit is nie omdat ware Christene bevrees of skaam was om vir hulle te getuig nie, of wat valse Christene in die Naam van Christus gedoen het nie, maar omdat ware Christene hulle so lief gehad het en vir hulle gesê het dat hulle vervolgers nie Christene was nie.

Die gevaar van eensaamheid.

En hy sê vir die koning: ‘Iets erger gaan jou oorkom as jy in eensaamheid bly treur.’
Daar is een ding erger as die dood van ’n ongeredde geliefde, net een ding, en dit is om in eensaamheid alleen te gaan treur. Wat sê die Here oor so ’n situasie?

Mat. 12:46: “En terwyl Hy nog met die skare spreek, staan sy moeder en broers daarbuite en wou graag met Hom praat. Toe sê iemand vir Hom: Dáár staan u moeder en u broers buite en wil graag met U praat. Maar Hy antwoord en sê vir die een wat Hom dit vertel het: Wie is my moeder? En wie is my broers? En Hy steek sy hand oor sy dissipels uit en sê: Dáár is my moeder en my broers.”
Ek hoop my moeder kom na die Here toe, ek hoop my broer kom tot redding, ek hoop my vrou se ouers aanvaar Jesus, en ek hoop dieselfde vir jou geliefdes. Maar as dit nie gebeur nie sal ek en jy ons in dieselfde situasie bevind wat Dawid was.

Het Jesus nie direk gepraat van die menigte wat in die Laaste Dae afvallig gaan raak en wat mekaar gaan verraai nie? Dinge wat in die Laaste Dae in families gaan plaasvind.

Ek kan julle dit belowe: Dit gaan nou seermaak en daardie pyn is iets waarmee ek en jy sal moet lewe. Maar daar sal ’n tyd kom wanneer dit nie meer gaan seermaak nie; so onmoontlik as wat dit ook mag klink, die Here kan daardie pyn en verlies wegneem, God kan alles doen.

Op. 21:4: “En God sal al die trane van hulle oë afvee, en daar sal geen dood meer wees nie; ook droefheid en geween en moeite sal daar nie meer wees nie, want die eerste dinge het verbygegaan.”
As jy onlangs ’n ongeredde geliefde verloor het, weet dit, daar gaan ’n tyd kom wat dit nie meer sal seer maak nie.

Om saam te vat.

Maar nou is daar goeie nuus en daar is slegte nuus. Ons ken die slegte nuus, maar dit is die goeie nuus. Daai is iets wat ek in die gesig moet staar as ek aan my siek moeder dink. Daar is iets wat jy in die gesig moet staar as jy aan jou ongeredde bejaarde ouers dink, of jou ongeredde man of vrou: Hoe gaan ons dit hanteer? Wat het Jesus gesê? Al wat ek kan sê is wat Hy gesê het: Jy is my moeder, jy is my broer, jy is my suster, my broer; hy of sy wat die wil van my Vader doen.
Groete in Jesus.
The death of Absalom / vertaal 04/2015

Philippine Garbage Dump Children April 2015

Grace and peace be multiplied unto you from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I have attached some photos of our children who graduated from Kindergarten, grade six and High School, others with honors and awards. Parents who are poor in English verbally told me of their thankfulness to the lord,to Moriel ministries, to all our supporters, to you , for all your unceasing help and supports for the needs of their children.express her appreciation through letter, and I attached it.

A week of blessed experience of some of our young children who attended the Christian Summer Camp. First time on their life to rode on a rented car was comfortable, with matching good food on the way. I let them know that it was your desire for them to experience the goodness of the Lord. And they were so thankful.

Joy to them the meeting of former christian friends and new friends. Familiarity on christian fellowships and activities were good for them. They participated their talents on group praise singing and group skit presentation. They saw and felt the beauty of God’s created nature at Camp venue. It was an unforgettable happy page in their lives, the Lord be praised.

Our prayer for them are that they may seriously take home what they learn from experience, from the lessons and from the preaching of God’s word delivered by Pastors, that they may do in life as good testimony, which serves as light to those in the dark.

Thank you so much for all your prayers and supports. May the Lord God continue to bless you and the ministry.

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IMG_5130Sincerely in Christ,
Ptr. Paul

Urgent Prayer Request

Moriel & Jacob Prasch as a matter of some urgency request prayer for Sister Evie Fishkin, wife of Messianic Jewish apologist & creationist (and Moriel associate) Michael Fishkin and Moriel  in Oregon in the USA. Evie has been diagnosed with a terminal brain and thoracic cancer and although The Lord has been gracious and the various treatments somewhat successful, there are medical complications. She has by God’s goodness survived seven years thus far since the initial diagnosis and we are asking The Lord to keep her with us and her family.

 

Robert Schuller Dead

James Jacob Prasch 
April 2, 2016

What a terrible loss to the cause of the anti christ !

* Now Mr. Schuller can explain to Jesus why he taught his followers on TV that Jesus went to the cross “in order to magnify His ego”.

* He can also tell why Jesus when the Islamic Grand Mufti of Damascus preached in the Chrystal Cathedral that he said

“He would not mind if his Grandchildren became moslems”.

* He can further tell Jesus why when the pedophile protecting pope came to LA he said “we must ask the holy father the way home”

after Jesus said to call no man on earth your father in a religious or spiritual sense.

Of course not long after that, the Chrystal Cathedral was at home with the pope; the Roman Catholic Arch Diocese bought it for a song after Schuller’s ministry collapsed $56 million in debt much to the chagrin and annoyance of devotees who paid astronomical sums of money to get their names etched on a pane of Chrystal.I guess Schuller didn’t really trust in his ‘Positive Thinking’ psycho-babel that he copied from 33rd degree free mason Norman Vincent Peale at Marble Collegiate Church

in my native in New York. Before he died The Lord had Schuller watch his empire built on deception and spiritual seduction crumble. This was Divine justice indeed.May the other ‘Market Driven’ churches that Mr. Schuller’s influence engendered wind up likewise unless they repent.

I recall that Mr.Schuller bad mouthed my dear friend and  brother Dave Hunt (whom I really loved and respected) viciously. Brother Dave had nothing to explain when he checked out. Jesus welcomed him home personally saying: “Well Done Good & Faithful Servant”.

The real tragedy is that Mr. Schuller actually began preaching the true Gospel and people were actually saved through his ministry in its earlier days. May The Lord

in His grace keep the rest of us from going off the rails and misleading His people with Satan’s lies as Schuller did. The bottom line is that when we stand before The Lord I would rather be in the shoes of  Dave Hunt whom Robert Schuller condemned than in the shoes of Robert Schuller who condemned Dave. But we will each be in our own shoes.

We are better asking The Lord to remove us from ministry now than beginning well but ending in heretical scandal perverting and discrediting the Gospel as Robert Schuller undeniably did.

May The Lord show us mercy.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Robert Schuller dies. this man single handedly cause major apostasy in the church. I wonder who will be singing his praises now that he is standing before Jesus to give account.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/02/robert-schuller-crystal-cathedral-megachurch-founder-dies/

The Rev. Robert H. Schuller, the Southern California televangelist and author who beamed his upbeat messages on faith and redemption to millions from his landmark Crystal Cathedral only to see his empire crumble in his waning years, has died. He was 88.

Schuller died early Thursday at a care facility in Artesia, daughter Carol Schuller Milner said. In 2013, Schuller was diagnosed with a tumor in his esophagus that had spread to his lymph nodes and began treatment.

Once a charismatic and well-known presence on the televangelist circuit, Schuller faded from view in recent years after watching his church collapse amid a disastrous leadership transition and sharp declines in viewership and donations that ultimately forced the ministry to file for bankruptcy.

The soaring, glass-paned Crystal Cathedral — the touchstone of Schuller’s storied ministry — was sold to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange in 2011, and Schuller lost a legal battle the following year to collect more than $5 million from his former ministry for claims of copyright infringement and breach of contract.

Schuller, who preached in a flowing purple robe and outsized aviator glasses, suffered a mild heart attack in 1997 but was quickly back on the pulpit, saying “the positive person” is not afraid of life’s surprises. In July 2013, he was hospitalized for days after a late-night fall at his home in Orange.

Schuller’s evangelical Protestant ministry, part of the Reformed Church in America, was a product of modern technology. He and his late wife, Arvella, an organist, started a ministry in 1955 with $500 when he began preaching from the roof of a concession stand at a drive-in movie theater southeast of Los Angeles.

The church’s motto — “Come as you are in the family car” — tapped into the burgeoning Southern California auto culture and the suburban boom of post-World War II America.

By 1961, the church had a brick-and-mortar home — a “walk-in/drive-in church” — and Schuller began broadcasting the “Hour of Power” in 1970.

In 1980, he built the towering glass-and-steel Crystal Cathedral to house his booming TV ministry, which was broadcast live each week from the cathedral’s airy and sunlit 2,800-seat sanctuary. At its peak, in the 1990s, the program had 20 million viewers in about 180 countries.

Schuller’s message — that “Possibility Thinking” and love of God overcome hardships — was a uniquely American blend of Bible and psychology. It was inspired by late author Norman Vincent Peale, who wrote “The Power of Positive Thinking.” Schuller also wrote more than 30 books, including several best-sellers.

“He was a young guy like me, and he was going out there and trying new things,” said his grandson, Bobby Schuller, who pastors his own church that includes some of his grandfather’s former congregants. “He did so many amazing, innovative things.”

Unlike other televangelists, the senior Schuller’s message lacked fire-and-brimstone condemnations or conservative political baggage.

“The classical error of historical Christianity is that we have never started with the value of the person. Rather, we have started from the `unworthiness of the sinner,’ and that starting point has set the stage for the glorification of human shame in Christian theology,” he wrote in his book “Self-Esteem: The New Reformation.”

Schuller had admirers that ranged from fellow evangelist Billy Graham to Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. He also was among the first foreign religious figures invited to preach on Russian television.

Fundamentalists attacked him as a heretic and humanist for statements they believed denied the need for personal repentance of sin and for his tolerance of Jewish, Roman Catholic and other theologies.

His friendship with President Bill Clinton raised some eyebrows among the conservative Republicans of his Orange County congregation and prompted a deluge of irate letters and telephone calls.

In response, Schuller gave a sermon on tolerance.

“I do let people know how great their sins and miseries are,” he said in a 1992 radio interview. “I don’t do that by standing in a pulpit and telling them they’re sinners. …The way I do it is ask questions. Are you happy? Do you have problems, what are they? So then I come across as somebody who cares about them.”

Schuller sometimes cited the example of his daughter Carol, who lost part of her leg because of a motorcycle accident in 1978 but went on to become a champion skier.

“When tough times come, we need to take tough action, to hold on until the tide turns for the better, to tenaciously dig in and bloom where we are planted,” he wrote.

Tough times were in store for Schuller, too.

In 2006, Schuller’s only son, 51-year-old Robert A. Schuller, was installed as senior pastor, the start of a carefully choreographed leadership transition. Although a father-son succession is rare in the Reformed Church in America, the Schullers considered the church a “family business” and the move was sanctioned by the national church, officials said.

But the organization fell on difficult times after the younger Schuller’s installation, and he left amid a bitter family feud in fall 2008. His father had removed him from the “Hour of Power” broadcasts, and he quit as senior pastor a few weeks later.

Sheila Schuller Coleman, one of Schuller’s daughters, took over as the church’s top administrator, and a stable of preachers, including her and her father, handled preaching duties on the “Hour of Power.”

She, too, ultimately left, taking some congregants with her to start a new ministry.

The tumult in the pulpit worsened a pre-existing decline in viewership and donations, and in 2010, Crystal Cathedral ministries filed for bankruptcy, citing debt of more than $43 million.

Bankruptcy filings indicated the ministry was paying significant tax-exempt housing allowances to Schuller family members and insiders. The allowances were legal but raised concerns among vendors and other creditors who had gone unpaid for months.

In 2012, Schuller and his wife quit the board of directors in a dispute over copyright infringement and breach of contract. That same year, they lost a legal bid to recover more than $5 million from their former ministry.

Schuller’s grandson, Bobby Schuller, took the remaining congregation and founded a new church. Bobby Schuller also took over the “Hour of Power,” broadcasting from a new location.

Robert Harold Schuller was born in Alton, Iowa, in 1926, and was ordained by the Reformed Church in America in 1950. He was pastor of Ivanhoe Reformed Church in Chicago from 1950 to 1955 before moving to California.

Besides his son, Schuller and his wife, Arvella, had four daughters, Sheila, Jeanne, Carol and Gretchen. Arvella Schuller died Feb. 11, 2014, after a brief illness.